ESPN: Most improved teams

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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8302963/2012-nba-summer-forecast-team-turnaround

Top 5:
1) Nets
2) Warriors
2) Wolves
4) Hornets
5) Lakers

Don't think I'd rate Minny that high.
 

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It's funny how one or two players could entirely change your teams look ! And I definetely agree with their rankings ...
 

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I'd put the Nuggets over most of these teams. Nets are the clear #1 though.
 

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Minny is a bit high for sure. I didn't really like their offseason honestly... And the Lakers technically aren't a turnaround team. but Brooklyn is definitely #1 on my list.
 

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The 76ers should be on this list over the Hornets, and than the Lakers over the 76ers.
 

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lakers were good regardless. i wouldnt have had them on the list, the wolves are too high and i wouldnt have the hornets that high either. 6ers and nuggets got snubbed.
 

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Hornets should definitely be that high.
 

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The 76ers should be on this list over the Hornets, and than the Lakers over the 76ers.
Are the 76ers really that improved? They lost just as much as they gained... I think their record will be better but they aren't going any farther in the playoffs than they did this past year.

They may even fall from 3rd to 4th in their division.
 

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Are the 76ers really that improved? They lost just as much as they gained... I think their record will be better but they aren't going any farther in the playoffs than they did this past year.

They may even fall from 3rd to 4th in their division.
Who did they lose?? Harkless, Brand, and Iggy. They gained one of the best post players in the league in Bynum, they also picked up Dorell Wright who is no Iggy, but he can be a solid piece. They should be on that list as well as the Nuggets IMO.
 

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Are the 76ers really that improved? They lost just as much as they gained... I think their record will be better but they aren't going any farther in the playoffs than they did this past year.

They may even fall from 3rd to 4th in their division.
My thought as well. Bynum is a great player, but people don't realize how much they lost when they traded away Iggy. He did ALOT for that team.

Plus you never know when Bynum is going to go off the deep end or miss a bunch of games. You can always count on Iggy being a true professional and you can always count on him being on the court.
 

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Who did they lose?? Harkless, Brand, and Iggy. They gained one of the best post players in the league in Bynum, they also picked up Dorell Wright who is no Iggy, but he can be a solid piece. They should be on that list as well as the Nuggets IMO.
Brand was excellent for them last year, and Iggy was their best player. I don't mind the move, but to just say they definitely improved is rushing things. Like I said, Bynum isn't exactly trustworthy, and I could see him and Collins having some issues if things ever get tough (or Bynum doesn't get his way). Dorell Wright on the other hand, he's a decent player, but that's it. IMO he's more of a bench piece than a starter. He's not a elite shooter like people think he is, can't create his own shot, a underwhelming defender. In no way does he soften the blow of moving Iggy.
 

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Iggy is good but they already had a log jam at SG/SF.

Trading him for the 2nd best center in the league is a big deal and greatly improves them. They had absolutely no inside presence last year and now have a player the Heat can't deal with if they decide to go to small, which works amazingly for them.

Roy Hibbert gave them so problems last year, and he isn't half the player Bynum is.
 

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Iggy is good but they already had a log jam at SG/SF.

Trading him for the 2nd best center in the league is a big deal and greatly improves them. They had absolutely no inside presence last year and now have a player the Heat can't deal with if they decide to go to small, which works amazingly for them.

Roy Hibbert gave them so problems last year, and he isn't half the player Bynum is.
They don't have anyone to check Bron or Wade now either, or really Bosh for that matter, but that wasn't Iggy's job
 

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I never said they match up well with the Heat or stand a chance. I'm saying they have a player that the Heat can't deal with and he makes them better overall.
 

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the 6ers can play from the inside/outside. bynum is going to give them something they didnt have. the guards/forwards they have can help make up for what they lost; they lost a lot by trading iggy but they gained so much with getting bynum.
 

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Like I said, they really aren't that improved. You can talk about a log jam all you want, but Iggy did so much for that team that will not be easily replaced. Brand was also a great post defender for them, better than Bynum was last season for LA. We're also ignoring the downgrade from Lou Williams to Nick Young.

Like I said, they may move up a few seeds with teams like Orlando and Atlanta dropping off, but there's no way they win SEVEN playoff games like they did last year.
 

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