The Penultimate Mock

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by Jeff Risdon

By popular demand, I have extended this one out to four rounds. I sent the first draft to two different NFL team sources, one a scout and one a front office staffer (different teams), and their feedback forced many changes that I was not expecting to make.

This represents what I think might happen during the draft. It does not necessarily reflect what I would do, nor do I endorse all the decisions here. Rating players and slotting players are two completely different disciplines.

I put it after the first round as well, but my goal here is more to match the player with the slot. That is especially true beyond the top 40 picks, so do not get all crazy if you think I have a strange pick listed for a team.

I will have a final mock on Thursday morning for the first round, and perhaps the first three rounds if there is time. Most of the next five days will be spent milking sources and trying to get as many player/slot marriages correct as I can.

If you have more team-specific questions, email me at [email protected] or hit me on Twitter @JeffRisdon.

Round 1
1. Indianapolis Colts: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
Locked in, with good reason.

2. Washington Redskins (from STL): Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
Also locked in, also with good reason.

3. Minnesota Vikings: Matt Kalil, T, USC
I like the line of thinking that taking Kalil improves two OL positions, with Kalil solidifying LT and kicking Charlie Johnson inside to LG where he belongs. I still think Claiborne is an option but I will settle with the herd on Kalil.

4. Cleveland Browns: Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State
Perfect type of receiver to pair with Colt McCoy at QB. It is either Blackmon or Richardson. This spot is for sale.

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
They get their choice of Richardson or Claiborne, and I believe they go for the RB. If both are off the board, look for TB to deal this pick to a team (hello Buffalo!) looking to move up and get Kalil.

6. St. Louis Rams (from WAS): Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State
Jeff Fisher loves to build the DL, and Cox is a great fit for an attacking front.

7. Jacksonville Jaguars: Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
Claiborne falls no further than this, but it might not be the Jaguars picking him here. This spot is the most likely to be traded in the top 10.

8. Miami Dolphins: Melvin Ingram, LB/DE, South Carolina
Bucking the prevailing wisdom that Tannehill goes here. He could, but they could also trade back and still get Tannehill. Ingram has too much juice as a pass rusher to fall out of the top 10.

9. Carolina Panthers: Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina
Proximity helps, as the Panthers know better than any other team what went on around UNC the last two years. Kuechly, Gilmore, and Poe are all options. If Coples does not go here he could be sitting a long time.

10. Buffalo Bills: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
I am trusting someone here whose credibility I am unsure about, but he was so adamant that Buffalo has Floyd as a top-seven player on their board that I will humor it here. Reiff and Glenn would be the other options, and I am credibly told they prefer Glenn.

11. Kansas City Chiefs: Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M

This is as far as Tannehill falls, and it could be a case of the Chiefs dealing out. He makes sense there though as Cassel insurance and a long-term replacement.

12. Seattle Seahawks: Courtney Upshaw, DE, Alabama
They are not hiding their desire to upgrade the pass rush, and though Upshaw does not fit any real mold he has been remarkably prolific and proficient at making plays behind the line.

13. Arizona Cardinals: Riley Reiff, T, Iowa
He and Levi Brown make for an interchangeable pair of tackles that can swap sides if needed. A little birdie told me to drop Cordy Glenn in favor in Reiff here, the same bird that told me they were picking Daryl Washington and Ryan Williams in years past.

14. Dallas Cowboys: Mark Barron, S, Alabama
Demand trumps supply at safety, and no team needs one worse than the Cowboys. Barron does not fall out of the next three picks.

15. Philadelphia Eagles: Devon Still, DT, Penn State
It is usually around this point where someone unexpected goes, and Still is seen by most in the 30-45 range. He is a great schematic fit and the Eagles love to use premium picks along the lines. I had Dontari Poe here but I believe the reports he is falling.

16. New York Jets: Whitney Mercilus, OLB, Illinois
Immediate pass rush help, but what really attracts Mercilus to Rex Ryan is his ability to force turnovers. I still think they are trading up to get Ingram.

17. Cincinnati Bengals (from OAK): Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
Ample speed to burn opposite A.J. Green and drive opposing safeties nuts. His presence dictates coverages, and Andy Dalton is the kind of heady QB to exploit that advantage.

18. San Diego Chargers: Bobby Massie, T, Ole Miss
Once upon a draft GM AJ Smith took a chance on a big ol boy tackle with great feet but some warts in Marcus McNeill. That worked out great until McNeill got hurt, and now they replace him with Massie.

19. Chicago Bears: Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College
Many ways to go here. Could be CB, could be pass rusher, could even be OL. But here they take Kuechly, who can start at SLB now and move into the middle when Urlacher finally retires.

20. Tennessee Titans: Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
Fills the Cortland Finnegan void and does so with great length and athleticism. Hard to look past a pass rusher here but Gilmore is rated too high by too many to fall out of the top-20.

21. Cincinnati Bengals: David Decastro, G, Stanford
Every year the Bengals throw two specific coaches early bones: DC Mike Zimmer and OL Coach Paul Alexander. Coach Alexander gets the first bone this year with the polished Decastro over some tackle prospects. The depth at corner allows them to wait some there.

22. Cleveland Browns (from ATL): Cordy Glenn, G/T, Georgia. Ideal fit for Glenn, who fits best on the right side opposite Joe Thomas. Browns have pressing needs at both RT and RG, Glenn is a Day One starter at one of those.

23. Detroit Lions: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
If he happens to fall this far, GM Martin Mayhew will take about two seconds to get this pick up to the podium. Yes, I am a Lions fan but honestly it fell this way without that influencing anything.

24. Pittsburgh Steelers: Dont-a Hightower, LB, Alabama
Another absolute no-brainer pick, as Hightower has the prototypical Steeler mentality and physicality. Even though they like to bring their backers along slowly, Hightower starts from Day One and makes a positive impact.

25. Denver Broncos: Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
Brockers is a John Fox kind of lineman, a guy that plays the run first and then goes after the passer. He has some developmental upside that could make him falling this far look silly.

26. Houston Texans: Rueben Randle, WR, LSU
Tough to choose between a pass rusher and a play-making wideout. Here GM Rick Smith opts for the latter with Randle, who made some impressive plays despite some truly awful QB play and little to do creatively.

27. New England Patriots (from NO): Shea McClellin, LB, Boise State
Plenty of options even amongst the positions considered. McClellin just strikes me (and many others) as a Bill Belichick kind of player, versatile and well-rounded. As always, the Patriots will trade at least one of their first round picks.

28. Green Bay Packers: Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC
One of the more divisive prospects in this draft, Perry fills the need for a pass rushing threat opposite Clay Matthews, whose role he inherited at USC. If they choose they could slide back a few spots and still land Perry. Andre Branch makes sense too but I do not buy the Harrison Smith talk.

29. Baltimore Ravens: Kevin Zeitler, G/C, Wisconsin
Plug and play starter to replace Ben Grubbs and perhaps transition to center when Matt Birk finally calls it a career. He has definitively passed linemate Peter Konz thanks to durability and better hands.

30. San Francisco 49ers: Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
The startling fall ends here, as the Niners rescue Poe. It is a great fit as they can bring him along slowly in a strong locker room with great mentors like Justin Smith and Patrick Willis. Too much potential to pass.

31. New England Patriots: Amini Silatolu, G, Midwestern State
The only real question about the small-school giant is how quickly he can adjust to the NFL. The Patriots have taken fliers on lesser-regarded linemen before with strong results.

32. New York Giants: Mike Adams, T, Ohio State
I am writing this summary at exactly 4:20 PM on 4/20. Even though I did the "pick" part of this mock yesterday, I find that deliciously appropriate for Adams. Do not forget GM Jerry Reese has been rewarded for taking unpopular chances on guys like Bradshaw and Kenny Phillips.

Round 2: From here on down please focus more on the player/slot than the team/player fits.

33. St Louis Rams: Doug Martin, RB, Boise State
34. Indianapolis Colts: Colby Fleener, TE, Stanford
35. Minnesota Vikings: Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
36. Tampa Bay Bucs: Lavonte David, LB, Nebraska
37. Cleveland Browns: David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
38. Jacksonville Jaguars: Andre Branch, DE/OLB, Clemson
39. St. Louis Rams (from WAS): Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana
40. Carolina Panthers: Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
41. Buffalo Bills: Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
42. Miami Dolphins: Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame
43. Seattle Seahawks: Bobby Wagner, LB, Utah State
44. Kansas City Chiefs: Chandler Jones, DE/LB, Syracuse
45. Dallas Cowboys: Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
46. Philadelphia Eagles: Mitchell Schwartz, T, California
47. New York Jets: Derek Wolfe, DE, Cincinnati
48. New England Patriots (from OAK): Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall
49. San Diego Chargers: Kendall Reyes, DE, UConn
50. Chicago Bears: Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
51. Philadelphia Eagles (from ARI): Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
52. Tennessee Titans: AJ Jenkins, WR, Illinois
53. Cincinnati Bengals: Lamar Miller, RB, Miami FL
54. Detroit Lions: Bruce Irvin, LB/DE, Pittsburgh
55. Atlanta Falcons: Jonathan Martin, T, Stanford
56. Pittsburgh Steelers: Alameda Ta-Amu, NT, Washington
57. Denver Broncos: Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati
58. Houston Texans: Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
59. New Orleans Saints: forfeited
60. Green Bay Packers: Mike Martin, DL, Michigan
61. Baltimore Ravens: Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson
62. San Francisco 49ers: Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
63. New England Patriots: Josh Chapman, DT, Alabama
64. New York Giants: Josh Robinson, CB, UCF

Round 3
65. Indianapolis Colts: George Iloka, S, Boise State
66. St. Louis Rams: Marvin Jones, WR, California
67. Minnesota Vikings: Brandon Brooks, G, Miami OH
68. Cleveland Browns: Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State
69. Tampa Bay Bucs: Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State
70. Washington Redskins: Chris Givens, WR, Wake Forest
71. Jacksonville Jaguars: Ben Jones, G/C, Georgia
72. Buffalo Bills: Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson
73. Miami Dolphins: Jeff Allen, G/T, Illinois
74. Miami Dolphins (from CHI via CAR): Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
75. Kansas City Chiefs: Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple
76. Seattle Seahawks: Mychael Kendricks, LB, California
77. Houston Texans (from PHI): Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise State
78. New York Jets: Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami FL
79. Oakland Raiders: used on Terrelle Pryor
80. San Diego Chargers: Dwight Bentley, CB, Louisiana Lafayette
81. Chicago Bears: Jayron Hosley, CB, Virginia Tech
82. Arizona Cardinals: Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma
83. Dallas Cowboys: Taylor Thompson, TE, SMU
84. Tennessee Titans: Kelechi Osemele, G/T, Iowa State
85. Cincinnati Bengals: Brandon Boykin, CB/RS, Georgia
86. Atlanta Falcons: Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina
87. Detroit Lions: LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
88. Pittsburgh Steelers: Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana Lafayette
89. Denver Broncos: Brandon Hardin, S, Oregon State
90. Philadelphia Eagles (from HOU): James Michael-Johnson, LB, Nevada
91. New Orleans Saints: Zach Brown, LB, North Carolina
92. Green Bay Packers: David Molk, C/G, Michigan
93. Baltimore Ravens: Rokevius Watkins, T, South Carolina
94. San Francisco 49ers: Ronnell Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
95. New England Patriots: Ronnie Hillman, RB, San Diego State
96. New York Giants: Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin
97. Oakland Raiders (comp pick): Jaye Howard, DT, Florida

Round 4
98. St. Louis Rams: Joe Looney, G/C, Wake Forest
99. Indianapolis Colts: Rishard Matthews, WR, Nevada
100. Minnesota Vikings: Ron Brooks, CB, LSU
101. Houston Texans (from PHI via TB): Joe Adams, WR/KR, Arkansas
102. Cleveland Browns: Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
103. Jacksonville Jaguars: Keyshawn Martin, WR, Michigan State
104. Washington Redskins: James Brown, G/T, Troy
105. Miami Dolphins: Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin
106. Carolina Panthers: Markelle Martin, S, Oklahoma State
107. Buffalo Bills: Dequan Menzie, CB/S, Alabama
108. Seattle Seahawks: Rennie Moore, DT, Clemson
109. Kansas City Chiefs: Loni Fangupo, NT, BYU
110. Denver Broncos (from NYJ): BJ Coleman, QB, Chattanooga
111. Washington Redskins (from OAK): Philip Blake, C, Baylor
112. San Diego Chargers: Michael Egnew, TE, Missouri
113. Chicago Bears: Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
114. Arizona Cardinals: Trent Robinson, S, Michigan State
115. Dallas Cowboys: Kyle Wilber, OLB, Wake Forest
116. Philadelphia Eagles: Josh LeRibeus, G, SMU
117. Tennessee Titans: Asa Jackson, CB/RS, Cal Poly
118. Cincinnati Bengals: Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
119. Detroit Lions: Antonio Allen, S, South Carolina
120. Cleveland Browns (from ATL): Andrew Datko, T, Florida State
121. Pittsburgh Steelers: Kennan Robinson, LB, Oklahoma
122. Denver Broncos: Marcus Zusevics, T, Iowa
123. Houston Texans: Juron Criner, WR, Arizona
124. New Orleans Saints: James Hanna, TE, Oklahoma
125. Green Bay Packers: Chris Polk, RB, Washington
126. Buffalo Bills (from BAL): Coryell Judie, CB, Texas A&M
127. San Francisco 49ers: Justin Bethel, S, Presbyterian
128. New England Patriots: Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
129. New York Giants: Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
130. Minnesota Vikings: Kelcie McCray, S, Arkansas State
131. Oakland Raiders: Billy Winn, DE, Boise State
132. Baltimore Ravens: Jonathan Massaquoi, OLB, Troy
133. New York Giants: Tom Compton, T, South Dakota
134. Green Bay Packers: Miles Burris, LB, San Diego State
135. Green Bay Packers: Mike Harris, CB, Florida State
136. Minnesota Vikings: Edwin Baker, RB, Michigan State
137. Dallas Cowboys: Brandon Washington, G, Miami FL
 

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McClellin, Silatolu, Curry, and Sanu? I'd be very happy with that.

I would want a CB tho
 

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Justin Blackmon will not go #4

Chase Minnifield in the 4th round tho, I can dig that.
 

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Justin Blackmon will not go #4

Chase Minnifield in the 4th round tho, I can dig that.
.. I think you just have your sights set on Claiborne too much with the 4th overall pick to where nobody else except maybe richardson seems possibly to you.
 

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Justin Blackmon is not possible. Trent and Claiborne are. They will pick one of those two or trade down.
 

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Justin Blackmon is not possible. Trent and Claiborne are. They will pick one of those two or trade down.
I think it is possible.

I dont really think Claiborne is a possibility anymore. They need offensive weapons, and they need them now.

At the end of the day, it'll come down to Tannehill, Blackmon, Richardson.
 

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Blackmon and Tannehill are not in the mix, and they have two other picks in the top 37 where they could draft a starting RB and WR.

You are in denial about the Browns having interest in Claiborne just because you want him to fall to 7.

I think they'll take Trent, but they are in no way deciding between him and Blackmon. Claiborne and Richardson are better prospects at positions of need.
 

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Blackmon and Tannehill are not in the mix, and they have two other picks in the top 37 where they could draft a starting RB and WR.

You are in denial about the Browns having interest in Claiborne just because you want him to fall to 7.
I don't want a CB. Yes, Claiborne would be nice, but we need offensive weapons as well. In the 2nd I'd take a CB.

& If you don't think that Blackmon or Tannehill are in the mix, then you're fooling yourself. Don't listen to anything that comes out right now.. Its all bullshit so teams don't show their hands.

Cleveland could be saying they're not interested in Tannehill so somebody doesn't trade up to #3 .. And so on and so on.
 

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I don't want a CB. Yes, Claiborne would be nice, but we need offensive weapons as well. In the 2nd I'd take a CB.

& If you don't think that Blackmon or Tannehill are in the mix, then you're fooling yourself. Don't listen to anything that comes out right now.. Its all bullshit so teams don't show their hands.

Cleveland could be saying they're not interested in Tannehill so somebody doesn't trade up to #3 .. And so on and so on.
I'm definitely not fooling myself.. Why would the Browns pass on better talent that would fill a positional need, for lesser prospects? That makes no sense..
 

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I'm definitely not fooling myself.. Why would the Browns pass on better talent that would fill a positional need, for lesser prospects? That makes no sense..
They're not going to spend another top 10 pick on a CB.

If they like Tannehill and feel he can one day become a Franchise QB, then you take him and don't look back. I like Tannehill. I feel with proper coaching he can excel to the highest level. Hes a raw prospect. The Browns HC hasn't been able to have "HIS" Franchise QB yet.. Hes had to deal with horrible Colt McCoy. Sure, Colt has won some games, but he can't throw the ball past the hash marks. Put a QB back there, and he makes everybody look better.

1 Way to keep losing, avoid your biggest problems. Sure, the Browns need a #2 CB. But it won't be Claiborne. They have too many holes on offense and the Browns will continue to suck ass if they don't select Tannehill/Blackmon/Richardson.
 

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So the Browns are not going to continue to suck ass if they draft a developmental QB with the 4th pick who is climbing draft boards only because he's a QB?

The Browns wouldn't be avoiding their biggest problems, they have another first round pick and a high second round pick..
 

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So the Browns are not going to continue to suck ass if they draft a developmental QB with the 4th pick who is climbing draft boards only because he's a QB?

The Browns wouldn't be avoiding their biggest problems, they have another first round pick and a high second round pick..
Tannehill isn't just climbing the boards because hes a QB. Alot of people love him as a prospect. If that were the case. Weeden and Cousins would be a first round pick. Browns have avoided a QB since the Brady Quinn thing. Time to move on and get your own QB. Colt McCoy isn't working out.
 

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I think the Browns take Richardson and avoid Claiborne/Blackmon for one major reason... The AFC North is still a ground and pound division. You don't NEED an amazing pass defense (Claiborne) nor do you NEED an amazing receiving crew (Blackmon), but you do need a good running game.

I don't think they take Tannehill because he simply isn't worth taking that early, though like everyone says if they fall in love with him... then they'll take him... but I think Richardson is the best all around prospect of the 3 (Blackmon, Richardson, Claiborne) and the best fit for the Browns.
 

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Tannehill isn't just climbing the boards because hes a QB. Alot of people love him as a prospect. If that were the case. Weeden and Cousins would be a first round pick. Browns have avoided a QB since the Brady Quinn thing. Time to move on and get your own QB. Colt McCoy isn't working out.
Did it slip your mind that the Browns offered 3 firsts for RG3? Or even that Holmgren tried to trade a bunch of picks for Sam Bradford his first year on the job? They haven't avoided a QB, they just aren't going to draft one to draft one in the first round.
 

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Did it slip your mind that the Browns offered 3 firsts for RG3? Or even that Holmgren tried to trade a bunch of picks for Sam Bradford his first year on the job? They haven't avoided a QB, they just aren't going to draft one to draft one in the first round.
I'm talking about drafting a QB period since the Brady Quinn thing. Sure, they've made attempts. & all of them were unsuccessful.
 

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I'm talking about drafting a QB period since the Brady Quinn thing. Sure, they've made attempts. & all of them were unsuccessful.
So you're saying they're avoiding QBs just because they've decided not to draft mediocre ones in the first round because they couldn't get the guys they wanted?
 

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They're not going to spend another top 10 pick on a CB.

If they like Tannehill and feel he can one day become a Franchise QB, then you take him and don't look back. I like Tannehill. I feel with proper coaching he can excel to the highest level. Hes a raw prospect. The Browns HC hasn't been able to have "HIS" Franchise QB yet.. Hes had to deal with horrible Colt McCoy. Sure, Colt has won some games, but he can't throw the ball past the hash marks. Put a QB back there, and he makes everybody look better.

1 Way to keep losing, avoid your biggest problems. Sure, the Browns need a #2 CB. But it won't be Claiborne. They have too many holes on offense and the Browns will continue to suck ass if they don't select Tannehill/Blackmon/Richardson.
So everytime he throws the ball it instantly drops to the floor without moving forward?
 

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So you're saying they're avoiding QBs just because they've decided not to draft mediocre ones in the first round because they couldn't get the guys they wanted?
No, but since the whole Brady Quinn thing.. there has been a shit ton of good QBs in the drafts. If you want a franchise QB, the first round is where you look. Sure, theres the occasional Tom Brady or Matt Schaub.. majority of the franchise QBs are first round QBs. I dont think Tannehill would be that much of a reach, and if you think hes a quality starting QB in the NFL. You take him and dont look back.
 

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No, but since the whole Brady Quinn thing.. there has been a shit ton of good QBs in the drafts. If you want a franchise QB, the first round is where you look. Sure, theres the occasional Tom Brady or Matt Schaub.. majority of the franchise QBs are first round QBs. I dont think Tannehill would be that much of a reach, and if you think hes a quality starting QB in the NFL. You take him and dont look back.
I don't know why you keep mentioning the "Brady Quinn thing". The current front office has no affiliation to Brady Quinn, and he is not the reason they haven't drafted a QB in the first round.

First round QBs the Browns have passed on under Holmgren/Heckert:
2010 - Tim Tebow
2011 - Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, Blaine Gabbert

Jake Locker is the only one I would consider on that list to take at 6 in 2011, but the trade down was the right move in 2011, we needed more picks.

So yea, didn't really pass on much talent..
 

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