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& Even if they were correct. The Jaguars would have about 17 Million left.. Then with the added roll over cap space..


$17 million (2012) + $32 million (2011) = Approx $49 million.


So, Jags are more than good in terms of having money to throw around this offseason.

Hello top 10 WR.
I never said once they wouldnt have the cap space for a stud player... I just said they dont have the most.

I dont think they will get a real top 10 WR. they might get Meachem, Stevie, or Manningham, who arent bad at all, but shouldnt be #1 recievers.

If the Jags sign a big-name FA, my bet would be Carl Nicks
 

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I never said once they wouldnt have the cap space for a stud player... I just said they dont have the most.

I dont think they will get a real top 10 WR. they might get Meachem, Stevie, or Manningham, who arent bad at all, but shouldnt be #1 recievers.

If the Jags sign a big-name FA, my bet would be Carl Nicks
SMFH.

Players care about money, Jaguars are a young team with alot of money. They're getting one of the top WR.
 

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To be fair, a lot of teams have a lot of cap to spend every year.

The majority of players won't just go to you because you have money, you actually have to sell them on your team.
 

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To be fair, a lot of teams have a lot of cap to spend every year.

The majority of players won't just go to you because you have money, you actually have to sell them on your team.
& The Jaguars isn't sellable? Child please.

Money talks, bullshit walks.
 

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What would the Jaguars sell receivers on?

The opportunity to run block for MJD?

The opportunity to have the ball delivered to them by the one and only Blaine Gabbert?

The 5-11 record?

I'd suppose the Jags aren't nearly the easy sell you think they would be.
 

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And to add to nola's post, before you rebute kam.


Whether you believe Gabbert will succeed or not in the NFL, it is an uncertain that he will. And for a diva-esque wideout like Desean or Vincent Jackson, the idea of having their starting QB being someone who completed less than 50% of their passes isn't a good one. Look at how the Jets fell apart last year; Santonio and Plax couldnt stand how bad Sanchez was. And Sanchez was a whole lot better than Gabbert last year.


If I'm a big name, FA wide receiver, a place like Cincinatti seems far more enjoyable than Jacksonville.
 

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All I'm saying is if the Jags are going to sell a bigtime WR they better be writing their sell write now.

And hiring a motivational speaker may not be a bad idea either.
 

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And to add to nola's post, before you rebute kam.


Whether you believe Gabbert will succeed or not in the NFL, it is an uncertain that he will. And for a diva-esque wideout like Desean or Vincent Jackson, the idea of having their starting QB being someone who completed less than 50% of their passes isn't a good one. Look at how the Jets fell apart last year; Santonio and Plax couldnt stand how bad Sanchez was. And Sanchez was a whole lot better than Gabbert last year.


If I'm a big name, FA wide receiver, a place like Cincinatti seems far more enjoyable than Jacksonville.
That was not the reason of the chemistry problems. Tone and Sanchez had great chemistry in Tone's first year with the Jets, before the season even started there was beef, had nothing to do with Sanchez's performance.
 

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LMFAO.

Man, its crazy how yall hate on Gabbert.

Since I'm tired of saying it, let me repeat it for the last time.

  • Rookie
  • Youngest Starting Rookie QB in a while
  • No WRs
  • No Offseason
  • Coming from Spread offense where he took no snaps under center
  • Former WR coach as his QB coach (The fuck?)
  • Coaches not caring enough because of their own contract situation.
  • Alot of injuries to the right side of the Oline (Eben Britton didn't play at all this year).

Which fucking QB could succeed in these situations? Every Rookie QB that was in the draft last year would of failed with that around them. It isn't just Gabbert. It's not excuses either. Yes, Gabbert has things to work on.. But how are you going to work on them whenever your coaching staff doesn't help you fucking improve?

If Gabbert was really that bad as yall make him out to be, We would be in the mix for a QB this year. Gene Smith and certainly Shad Khan said that they reached out to EVERY coach they asked to do an interview with and said they they wouldn't ask for permission unless they gave them their honest opinion on Blaine Gabbert.. They said that all the feedback on Gabbert was good and that the only issues was little things that could be worked out in coaching.

Mike Mularkey
Rob Chudzinski
Mike McCoy
Bill O'Brien
Shad Khan said he talked to Bill Cowher, & Tony Dungy about it also during an interview last week.

I'm pretty sure they all know a whole lot more about the process of developing a QB better than any of you here on SI.

As for players actually caring.. whoever is paying the most, thats where they're going. Sorry. All they care about is Money, nobody rarely does it for the love of the game anymore.

As for good things about the Jags? Good city, new owner, new head coach, new excitment. Young QB who has sky as the limit as long as hes willing to learn. A place to come and be a superstar in the city. Yeah, the Jags ran with MJD alot, but that was because we had no other weapons. Why not give the ball to your best player? Young team.. and can be contender.

Also, ALOT of WRs in the league LOVE Jags new WR coach. But this article explains why players dont care about which team or anything.. just the paycheck. ITS A FUCKING JOB.

LOS ANGELES -- Within hours of creating one its most glorious moments, the pro sports world exposed one of its dirty little secrets.

Hours after the New York Giants' dramatic Super Bowl victory over the New England Patriots on Sunday, the losing team threw a loud party where two key players, tight end Rob Gronkowski and tackle Matt Light, stripped off their shirts and joyfully danced on stage.

The video went viral, and plenty of people got sick. Many Patriots fans couldn't understand it. A least one notable former Patriot couldn't accept it.

"There's no reason for that to happen ... it's not right," said former Patriots safety Rodney Harrison on ESPN Chicago Radio 1000. "When we lost the Super Bowl, I was so devastated the last thing I ever wanted to do was party."

Some of them do get devastated, but not most of them, thus the dirty little secret.

The players don't care as much as you do.

Here, let me write it again for that Patriots die-hard who still hasn't slept, for that Lakers lover who is suffering from a stress disorder, for any professional sports fan who has literally cried in his beer while assuming his heroes are doing the same.

The players don't care as much as you do.

In my 30 years of covering professional sports, I've found barely a handful of players who care as much about winning as the most fervent of fans. We're spoiled around here because we've watched Kobe Bryant hate on losing for the last 16 years, but Bryant is the exception.

Professional athletes care about their salaries. They care about their security. They care about their health. They care about the same things we care about in our jobs. They like winning and dislike losing, but are generally unaffected by the daily successes or failures of their company, and really, what right do we have to demand otherwise?

Certainly, pro athletes with integrity instinctively give their best effort, are at least momentarily devastated upon suffering a tough loss, and are jubilant after a big win. But on a daily basis, the average pro athlete views the average game as another day at the office.

I've always felt the Happiest Place on Earth was not Disneyland, but the hallway outside NBA locker rooms after a playoff elimination game. The players on the winning team are happy to keep playing, and the players on the losing team are happy to be going on vacation. The losers loudly joke with the winners, exchange phone numbers with them, brag about their upcoming trip to Mexico, then put their children on their shoulders and skip into summer.

Sometimes they don't even wait until the elimination loss for the Mexico part. In the 1998 playoffs, when the Lakers were in the process of being swept by the Utah Jazz, guard Nick Van Exel infamously led the team in a post-practice chant that went, "One, two, three ...Cancun!"

While he said he was joking, Shaquille O'Neal ripped him and the club sent him packing, because everybody in pro sports is programmed to talk about living or dying with the team, but their actions speak louder than their words.

I've always felt that the greatest example of pro football unity does not take place in a fourth-quarter huddle, but in postgame handshakes. Have you seen how these combatants suddenly join forces on the field after the final gun, hugging, laughing together, hanging out like best friends, a dozen impromptu reunions? Remember how, on the field after a supposedly tough three-point loss last season, Dallas' Tashard Choice actually asked Philadelphia's Michael Vick for his autograph?

"Fans are very much identified with their teams, often more than athletes, and they take losses much harder," said Marc Shatz, / a Beverly Hills clinical psychologist who deals with both. "Players have the security of their contracts, they have every narcissistic need met, they think this will last forever, so individual losses have much more meaning to fans."

Four years ago, fans were surprised when injured Jeremy Shockey spent the Super Bowl partying in a luxury box instead of sweating with his New York Giant teammates on the sidelines. Fans were shocked when Derek Anderson, one-time quarterback of the Arizona Cardinals, was laughing and joking on the sidelines late in a bad loss.

Another place that player priorities are not a secret is in Las Vegas, where, in pro sports wagering, the folks who make the betting lines completely discount athlete emotion.

"Last week we got questions about whether we account for Tom Brady wanting revenge on the Giants, but you can't let that influence the math," said Jay Rood, race and sports betting director for MGM/Mirage's Nevada sports books. "These guys, it's just their jobs. The average Joe looks at it like more than a job, but that's all it is."

Rood said he approaches college sports differently because it's still kids who don't yet have careers and still really care first about winning for the team. After all, they don't call it the, "good ol' NFL try," do they?

"In college, the athletes play for fleeting moments," said Rood. "But in the pros, if you don't have the motivation to give your best performance for your next contract or paycheck, I don't know where that motivation comes from"

It's a tough truth to swallow, but it's real, and perhaps we should remember it the next time we see a pro athlete relaxing after a tough loss like we might relax after a bad day at work.

Win one for the Gipper? The Gipper never played in the NFL.
 

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1. I think that article has more to do with the fact that players dont care about losing, not so much about who they play for.

2. I think the Jaguars will get a decent WR through FA, theres a lot of available options and a player will go for the money. TJ Housmenzadah ring a bell? Or maybe Brandon Marshall? Anquan Boldin?

3. The Jags offense was atrocious last year, last in the league in yards per game. They need more than just 1 WR....
 

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1. I think that article has more to do with the fact that players dont care about losing, not so much about who they play for.

2. I think the Jaguars will get a decent WR through FA, theres a lot of available options and a player will go for the money. TJ Housmenzadah ring a bell? Or maybe Brandon Marshall? Anquan Boldin?

3. The Jags offense was atrocious last year, last in the league in yards per game. They need more than just 1 WR....
1 good WR makes a difference.

Teams start double teaming him, opens up lanes for other players.. I also expect us to draft a few WRs
 

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The numbers are in.

One of the new parts of the NFL collective bargaining agreement is the ability of teams to roll over remaining cap room into the next season. The 2011 season finished with $320 million of remaining cap room. Thirty teams carried over $301.78 million of unused cap money to give the 32 teams approximately $711 million of combined room as they start to prepare for the 2012 season.

The 2011 salary cap was $120.375 million, and the 2012 ceiling is expected to be close. The exact number is calculated based on revenues and should be available in the next week or two.

The Houston Texans and San Diego Chargers didn't have enough remaining room to push money over into 2012, so Houston has $3.3 million of cap space and San Diego has $9.2 million.

The Jacksonville Jaguars didn't spend $31 million of cap room in 2011, so they now have $45 million of room. The Kansas City Chiefs have $62.995 million after budgeting $24.014 million from the 2011 season. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, thanks to $23.519 million of carryover cap money, have the second-most cap space with $60.496 million. The Cincinnati Bengals moved over $15 million from last year and have $60 million to spend. Dan Snyder of the Washington Redskins has plenty of room to get quarterback and receiver help, thanks to $47.56 million of cap space. The 2011 playoff teams in good shape are the Denver Broncos ($50.735 million of cap room), San Francisco 49ers ($39.33 million), Atlanta Falcons ($30.6 million) and New England Patriots ($20 million). To get to the $50 million mark, the Broncos carried over $26 million of unused cap.

Four teams still have to get under the salary cap by March 13. They are the Pittsburgh Steelers, who have redone three contracts to be $11.7 million over, the Oakland Raiders ($11 million over), the Carolina Panthers ($9.6 million over) and the New York Giants ($7.3 million over).
 

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So top 5 looks like -

1. Kansas City Chiefs - $62.995 Million
2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - $60.496 Million
3. Cincinnati Bengals - $60 Million
4. Denver Broncos - $50.735 Million
5. Washington Redskins - $47.56 Million

Bottom 4
29. New York Giants - $7.3 Million over
30. Carolina Panthers - $9.6 Million over
31. Oakland Raiders - $11 Million over
32. Pittsburgh Steelers - $11.7 Million over
 

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Tampa Bay will win the offseason, calling it now
 

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Top 5 pick, and $60 mil. Blount aint too bad, and Freeman was pretty good the year before this last one.

Draft Claiborne, sign VJax and others... not to shabby
 

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Top 5 pick, and $60 mil. Blount aint too bad, and Freeman was pretty good the year before this last one.

Draft Claiborne, sign VJax and others... not to shabby
Yeah, Freeman needs some weapons like VJax, that would instantly make the offense a lot better. I mean, who did Freeman really have? Mike Williams? Meh. Arrelious Benn? Meh. Winslow isn't all that great anymore. Claiborne & Talib? Oh my... They already have a good defensive line in place, got to improve on the run defense though. The Line backing core isn't special, but they already have a lot of good things in place. Cody Grimm & Sean Jones are fine at safety. Positions they can improve: WR, RT, LB, CB really and maybe some DL help.
 

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