2011 NFL Season Thread

[Giantmetfan07]

Nobody is like "Oh we got Tebow, we def going to win now"

You mean to tell me his WR's are like "Yeah, Id rather catch balls from Tebow who cant throw than Orton who can?" Yeah.. not true one bit.

Yeah, I'd be pretty pissed off when 8 yard passes from Tebow result in me making a web gem just to touch it.

 

[Yankees2772]

He fires up the troops... You think Eric Decker was so happy losing ball games with Kyle Orton throwing it to him? Sure he was getting better stats... but the team was fucking deflated all around. Not just on offense, but on defense, and special teams.

Look at how the defense and special teams have stepped up since Tebow has taken over. He has given life to the team, and EVERYONE is stepping up. You can't compare that to throwing for 300 yards, because it's something we haven't really seen in the history of the NFL where offense, defense, and special teams are such different facets of the game.

Tebow's presence on the field influences every other guy in the locker room. If you really would rather have guys like Kyle Orton and Jon Kitna, then I am not going to bother responding to any more of your idiotic statements of hatred towards Tebow. It's clear to me that you cannot accept being wrong about judging somebody, and Tebow just keeps proving you wrong in ways that you cannot explain when looking at his passer rating.

 

[cruzg24]

I've been asking the same question yet you Tebow nut-huggers dont answer.

Does him winning games make him a good QB?

No it doesnt make him a good QB.

But you ball-busters dont answer my question.

Why is it that the Broncos play better with Tebow?

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

He fires up the troops... You think Eric Decker was so happy losing ball games with Kyle Orton throwing it to him? Sure he was getting better stats... but the team was fucking deflated all around. Not just on offense, but on defense, and special teams.

Look at how the defense and special teams have stepped up since Tebow has taken over. He has given life to the team, and EVERYONE is stepping up. You can't compare that to throwing for 300 yards, because it's something we haven't really seen in the history of the NFL where offense, defense, and special teams are such different facets of the game.

Tebow's presence on the field influences every other guy in the locker room. If you really would rather have guys like Kyle Orton and Jon Kitna, then I am not going to bother responding to any more of your idiotic statements of hatred towards Tebow. It's clear to me that you cannot accept being wrong about judging somebody, and Tebow just keeps proving you wrong in ways that you cannot explain when looking at his passer rating.

That sums everything up. Right now, the fans and the organization are enjoying this moment because we had seen far worse than this in the past.

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

No it doesnt make him a good QB.

But you ball-busters dont answer my question.

Why is it that the Broncos play better with Tebow?

Tebow has that strong leadership presence in the locker room, mix him and Brian Dawkins together to fire up your team and pretty much will see some results.

 

[kam.]

He fires up the troops... You think Eric Decker was so happy losing ball games with Kyle Orton throwing it to him? Sure he was getting better stats... but the team was fucking deflated all around. Not just on offense, but on defense, and special teams.

Look at how the defense and special teams have stepped up since Tebow has taken over. He has given life to the team, and EVERYONE is stepping up. You can't compare that to throwing for 300 yards, because it's something we haven't really seen in the history of the NFL where offense, defense, and special teams are such different facets of the game.

Tebow's presence on the field influences every other guy in the locker room. If you really would rather have guys like Kyle Orton and Jon Kitna, then I am not going to bother responding to any more of your idiotic statements of hatred towards Tebow. It's clear to me that you cannot accept being wrong about judging somebody, and Tebow just keeps proving you wrong in ways that you cannot explain when looking at his passer rating.

LMFAO.

Hes a QB, hes playing Quarterback, not fucking Mascot.. You suppose to judge him on his passing stats, not his fucking rah-rah ability and rushing yards. I have no hate for Tebow. However, I do hate people like you who steady claim hes worthy of being a NFL Quarterback because how he affects the team around him. He does win, I've said this. Gimmicks only last you so long.

What the Broncos are doing now is pretty much a full time WildCat offense. Sure, it got The Dolphins some wins 1 season and even took them to the Playoffs, but when teams figure out how to stop it what are the Broncos going to do? Come out and try to pass? With Tebow? Child please. Tebow = Gimmick.

I don't see how him winning is exactly proving me wrong if he can't even complete over 10 passes in 1 game. Last time I checked, his position is QUARTERBACK. Not Mascot, not Runningback AT QB. He's a Quarterback, therefore hes suppose to be judged on what? His stats, performance throwing the football, and QB Rating.

Wake up and smell the damn coffee. I guarantee you guys like Decker would prefer a real QB thowing to them. Because at the end of the day if they don't get stats, they suffer. Not because of Hall of Fame (Which you need great stats just to get a look at them). But Money wise as well, if you aren't being productive in an offense that doesn't throw you the ball.

How else are you suppose to get bigtime contracts? Hate to tell you, but thats all the NFL players care about. Money and Stats. If they didn't you wouldn't see as many hold-outs and players leaving winning superbowl teams the year after just to cash it all in during Free Agency. Its not about the Winning. Sure, its like receiving fourplay ontop of sex.. but you play for the money, winning is just the cream ontop of the cake, something a little extra.

 

[kam.]

No it doesnt make him a good QB.

But you ball-busters dont answer my question.

Why is it that the Broncos play better with Tebow?

Cool he fires guys up.. Hes not a Mascot, hes a Quarterback.

 

[Yankees2772]

When you draft somebody, isn't the ultimate goal to win games with them? Or is it for them to have good numbers?

Tebow being quarterback gives him the respect in the locker room to fire the guys up. Sorry he doesn't do it like every other guy in the league, but he fucking wins.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

He's not a good qb, but him included with their defense and running game wins them games. <----Thats the final answer so lets move on.

That's the smartest thing I've ever heard on this forum.

 

[kam.]

When you draft somebody, isn't the ultimate goal to win games with them? Or is it for them to have good numbers?

Tebow being quarterback gives him the respect in the locker room to fire the guys up. Sorry he doesn't do it like every other guy in the league, but he fucking wins.

The ultimate goal is for them to be a playmaker and be a franchise QB. Thats not Tebow. Mark Sanchez, Vince Young, Tim Tebow. All guys who just "win games".. none of them are Good or Great.. I don't see why you keep debating. I said Tebow is a winner, doesn't justify that hes a horrible QB and shouldn't be praised like he does because its a gimmick and it'll be exploited soon.

That's the smartest thing I've ever heard on this forum.

Thats whats wrong here, people debate something.. but as soon as it carries on for a second or 2, people try to kill it.

 

[Giantmetfan07]

theres no problem with them debating this. If it turns into "**** you, you're a ***ing a**hole, go ****yourself", then it ends. Lol.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Thats whats wrong here, people debate something.. but as soon as it carries on for a second or 2, people try to kill it.

I'm not trying to kill it, debate all you want. I just agree with what .infamous said.

He's not a good QB, but they are winning games with him.

 

[kam.]

I'm not trying to kill it, debate all you want. I just agree with what .infamous said.

He's not a good QB, but they are winning games with him.

But regardless of what anybody thinks, its not because of him. Its not like hes on the defense stopping the opposing offense and keeping them from scoring so when he actually does turn it on for 5 mins a game, he can drive down the field and look like the over-rated ass cheerleader that he is.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

But regardless of what anybody thinks, its not because of him. Its not like hes on the defense stopping the opposing offense and keeping them from scoring so when he actually does turn it on for 5 mins a game, he can drive down the field and look like the over-rated ass cheerleader that he is.

I agree with basically everything you've said (everything that I've read anyway).

I'd especially agree that he won't be their starter next year. I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if they took a traditional QB in the first round.

 

[Yankees2772]

Of course they'd look to replace him, nobody with a job in Denver has any ties to him.

 

[kam.]

Of course they'd look to replace him, nobody with a job in Denver has any ties to him.

But if hes so great, why replace him?

 

[Yankees2772]

Because it's clear management doesn't want him (trading Lloyd).

 

[kam.]

Because it's clear management doesn't want him (trading Lloyd).

Trading Lloyd has nothing to do with keeping Tebow.. If Tebow was actually a good QB I bet they'd want to keep him.

Realize it, Tebow sucks.. He wins, but hes a horrible QB.. The Wins in the NFL wont last forever because hes a liability throwing the football.

 

[kam.]

LOOK AT FUTURE JAG BLACKMON TAKING OFF.. BOOM!

 

[Giantmetfan07]

Tebow can't even put the ball near receivers or defenders, thus he doesn't get intercepted. Doubt Brandon Lloyd would have made much of a different.