Blazers Considering Asking Roy To Retire To Clear Cap Space

Status
Not open for further replies.

Pugz

#ForPaul
Hall of Fame
Joined
Jun 17, 2007
Messages
127,713
Reaction score
2,100
um, winning a championship or contending for one might outweigh money. like i said, he seems like a smart dude and hes already loaded. hes still young-ish, knees can improve slightly with a better staff, possibly. if they offer you a buyout, thats cash upfront. making him richer. leave, sign a new contract, chase rings.

plus the team seems to be treating him like an old crippled man. i wouldnt wanna be with that team anymore.
 

lakerfan

Members
Hall of Fame
Joined
Feb 17, 2006
Messages
16,962
Reaction score
12
. if they offer you a buyout, thats cash upfront. making him richer. leave, sign a new contract, chase rings.
Even if Roy were on his knees (no pun intended) begging for one, Portland can't buy him out. You cannot shorten contracts in the NBA; the only semi-practical way to get rid of a player investment is by putting him on waivers. Doing that, however, doesn't eliminate the Blazers' financial commitments-- his salary still counts against the Blazers cap unless someone signs him as a FA and his signing salary is discounted from their debts. Even then, unless a team picks him up for a max contract deal (which will never happen), Portland still ends up owing a significant of money. We can argue about Roy's market value-- my gut feeling says he's worth at most a few millions upwards the MLE (a rather generous figure)-- but its low enough to mean putting him on waivers isn't a viable financial option for his current team. Why ask for something that is impossible to have done and lowers your market value? Long story short-- Roy stays in Portland, and is going to wait years, whether he likes it or not, to even have the opportunity to demand a move to another city.


"If another team signs a released player who had a guaranteed contract (as long as the player has cleared waivers -- see question number 56), the player's original team is allowed to reduce the amount of money it still owes the player (and lower their team salary) by a commensurate amount (this is called the right of set-off). This is true if the player signs with any professional team -- it doesn't even have to be an NBA team. The amount the original team gets to set off is limited to one-half the difference between the player's new salary and the minimum salary for a one-year veteran (if the player is a rookie, then the rookie minimum is used instead)."


um, winning a championship or contending for one might outweigh money. like i said, he seems like a smart dude and hes already loaded. hes still young-ish, knees can improve slightly with a better staff
He is already on a rather young playoff contender; teams with cap that might be interested will more likely be worse talent-wise. More importantly, the injury fears Portland has will follow him to that destination, too. The only difference is, for that team, he won't be treated like a marquis player because he won't be compensated like one. Contenders like Chicago, additionally, who would want him can only offer at most the MLE-- something POR is aware of, and constitute another reason why POR won't let him go.

plus the team seems to be treating him like an old crippled man. i wouldnt wanna be with that team anymore
In POR's defense, outside of his amazing playoff game, he has been an old crippled man. Unfortunately for him, he signed that max contract and limited his options for better and for worse. Now he has to deal with it.
 

jonathanlambert33

P-ROBlem
Staff member
Global Moderator
Hall of Fame
Joined
Apr 28, 2008
Messages
31,527
Reaction score
876
If I'm Roy, I play like complete crap and kill whatever trade value I have remaining.
 

SaintFan25

#JK25
Joined
Apr 19, 2008
Messages
4,745
Reaction score
133
he played 24 minutes
Yep, that's about the time you want him to be playing. Anyway why he can't start, he's become a liability on defense because of his knee. He's better off coming off the bench as a scoring spark rather than starting.
 

elcheato

Well-Known Member
Hall of Fame
Joined
Jun 11, 2008
Messages
67,842
Reaction score
2,208
And Roy did nothing after that game against Dallas.. He can't consistently play like that.
 

SaintFan25

#JK25
Joined
Apr 19, 2008
Messages
4,745
Reaction score
133
And Roy did nothing after that game against Dallas.. He can't consistently play like that.
Yeah that too. I've said this in other threads but again you can't expect performances like that on a consistent basis, he'll have some games where he'll do well but he won't be consistent by any means, he showed that during the regular season and in the playoffs.
 

jonathanlambert33

P-ROBlem
Staff member
Global Moderator
Hall of Fame
Joined
Apr 28, 2008
Messages
31,527
Reaction score
876
I'm still not completely sold Roy is 100% done. I want to see what he does after the offseason before I make a real judgement.
 

Mexi

#2 SG of all time #13
Hall of Fame
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
59,823
Reaction score
582
True, but he won the game.

I think the Jazz would go after him if he gets bought out.
he won the game, sure.
he still has some magic

but like me and dove are saying, he's better off the bench as a spark because he can only play limited minutes. if he's playing well, you leave him in to finish the game and then once in a while you get some magic like that game vs dallas (maybe not that much magic, but he's always been clutch. always)
 

$tunna

teejus
Hall of Fame
Joined
Jul 17, 2006
Messages
22,187
Reaction score
253
Sucks how B-Roy went from being the face of the franchise to this smh
 

cruzg24

It is what it is
Joined
May 18, 2008
Messages
21,184
Reaction score
209
Damn the Blazers had so much promise with Lamarcus, Roy, and Oden. Now its all gone.... Really sad to see.
 

SaintFan25

#JK25
Joined
Apr 19, 2008
Messages
4,745
Reaction score
133
Damn the Blazers had so much promise with Lamarcus, Roy, and Oden. Now its all gone.... Really sad to see.
Technically it's not all gone since LaMarcus is still healthy (*knock on wood*) but I get what you're saying.

We seriously have the worst luck.
 

Pugz

#ForPaul
Hall of Fame
Joined
Jun 17, 2007
Messages
127,713
Reaction score
2,100
yea you do. you guys should have beeen doing what the thunder are doing.
 

TTN2810

New Member
Joined
Jan 3, 2009
Messages
10,522
Reaction score
211
What even happened to him?
He used to be so good..
I mean he's only 26..
 

SaintFan25

#JK25
Joined
Apr 19, 2008
Messages
4,745
Reaction score
133
Yeah it depresses me talking about it, not just because my team is all fucked up now but for his sake. He goes from being an allstar and with tons of potential to this in just 1 year.

I've been saying this for a long time but I swear just by putting on a Blazer uniform automatically fucks your knees up.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 3)

Who Wins Game 5?

  • Tampa Bay Rays (Away)

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • Houston Astros (Home)

    Votes: 10 66.7%
Top