Howard: Orlando Trying To Run Me Out Like Shaq

[Big Bid'Ness]

From:realgm

On Monday night, Dwight Howard went on Twitter and indicated the Orlando Sentinel is trying run him out of town just like Shaquille O’Neal.

“Y does it seem like the writers of Orlando sentinel are tryna push me out of Orlando with dumb articles. It’s annoying. Can I enjoy my summer and get ready for next season in Orlando. Pls. Same thing u guys did to Shaq. Smh”

Smh is Twitter language for ”shaking my head.”

Howard elaborated further in other Tweets.

“I’m not blaming the media. I’m saying stop with the dumb articles. They don’t make be decision of mine. I jus don’t want Orlando fans to believe them. Cuz they don’t know. I love my city.”

 

[RipCity32]

Best part was the SMH explanation lmaooooo.

 

[DJT]

For real...media needs to stop, but they won't. Thats how they get people to look at their stuff.

Now if people stop looking at dumb articles....now that might work.

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

Best part was the SMH explanation lmaooooo.

Yea i had to look at that and SMH lol.

 

[VC15]

Smart move by Dwight.

He’s already paving the way for his exit while saving face.

He is now baiting the media to come at him.

Some writer from Orlando will now openly question: “Well, if he wanted to stay, why doesn’t he sign the extension?”

Otis Smith is a fool if he doesn’t cut his losses within the next 3 months.

 

[Mexi]

^yeah you're right
all he has to do is say I'll sign the extension and all this ends

 

[cruzg24]

^yeah you're right
all he has to do is say I'll sign the extension and all this ends

Lebron all over again....

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Smart move by Dwight.

He’s already paving the way for his exit while saving face.

He is now baiting the media to come at him.

Some writer from Orlando will now openly question: “Well, if he wanted to stay, why doesn’t he sign the extension?”

Otis Smith is a fool if he doesn’t cut his losses within the next 3 months.

Because the Nets REALLY have the best package to give the Magic.

 

[VC15]

Because the Nets REALLY have the best package to give the Magic.

Where in that post did I mention the Nets?

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Where in that post did I mention the Nets?

Why would you talk about anything on these forums that DIDN'T have something to do with your teams?

 

[VC15]

Why would you talk about anything on these forums that DIDN'T have something to do with your teams?

Because I can.

As far as the assets go:

If Orlando wants a high level of proven talent to continue a championship dream, and are willing to continue to pay incredible amounts of luxury tax, then the Lakers are the better option because of their assets (in players).

But if the Magic decide to rebuild, and want to begin to cut salary and luxury tax, the Nets are by far the better trading partner because we offer a 20PPG scoring center, cap space to dump Dwight into rather than having to take back equal salary, and plenty of draft picks for a promising 2012 draft.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Because I can.

As far as the assets go:

If Orlando wants a high level of proven talent to continue a championship dream, and are willing to continue to pay incredible amounts of luxury tax, then the Lakers are the better option because of their assets (in players).

But if the Magic decide to rebuild, and want to begin to cut salary and luxury tax, the Nets are by far the better trading partner because we offer a 20PPG scoring center, cap space to dump Dwight into rather than having to take back equal salary, and plenty of draft picks for a promising 2012 draft.

If the Magic trade Dwight anywhere, it's going to be L.A. One, because that, out of all his potential destinations, is where he wants to go. Two, because we can get the most talent back in return, and have the ability to dump a salary on them in exchance for Bynum and Odom (or something like that). There's no way we trade Dwight without packaging Arenas or Turkoglu along with it. Brook Lopez, while improving, is not a center the Magic can build around for any period of time.

 

[VC15]

If the Magic trade Dwight anywhere, it's going to be L.A. One, because that, out of all his potential destinations, is where he wants to go. Two, because we can get the most talent back in return, and have the ability to dump a salary on them in exchance for Bynum and Odom (or something like that). There's no way we trade Dwight without packaging Arenas or Turkoglu along with it. Brook Lopez, while improving, is not a center the Magic can build around for any period of time.

And how does that help the Magic?

They won’t contend, and won’t be rebuilding. Bynum and Odom are essentially expiring contracts (neither would likely not re-up with the Magic if they aren't contending) not to mention that Bynum is always a huge injury risk. The Magic will essentially have nothing to show for their franchise player after only a year.

Denver took on ready players instead of rebuilding pieces and look at how it worked out for them. They are still over the cap, are faced with losing all the pieces they got over the next 12 months, and are bound to be 1st round exits for years to come, if they decide to keep everyone. Why pay so much to be a bottom seed?

 

[CameronCrazy06]

And how does that help the Magic?

They won’t contend, and won’t be rebuilding. Bynum and Odom are essentially expiring contracts (neither would likely not re-up with the Magic if they aren't contending) not to mention that Bynum is always a huge injury risk. The Magic will essentially have nothing to show for their franchise player after only a year.

Denver took on ready players instead of rebuilding pieces and look at how it worked out for them. They are still over the cap, are faced with losing all the pieces they got over the next 12 months, and are bound to be 1st round exits for years to come, if they decide to keep everyone. Why pay so much to be a bottom seed?

And the Magic rebuild with Brook Lopez? Like I said, he's not a center you can build around. He's soft, puts up 20 on a terrible team, average defensively, soft, terrible rebounder, soft, etc. Did I mention he's soft? The picks are okay but the Nets with Dwight are a much better team and its not likely that those picks are going to be very good.

I'd take the Lakers package easily. Like I said, the Magic aren't going to trade Dwight unless Gil or Hedo goes with him. The Nets can't take that on.

 

[VC15]

And the Magic rebuild with Brook Lopez? Like I said, he's not a center you can build around. He's soft, puts up 20 on a terrible team, average defensively, soft, terrible rebounder, soft, etc. Did I mention he's soft? The picks are okay but the Nets with Dwight are a much better team and its not likely that those picks are going to be very good.


I'd take the Lakers package easily. Like I said, the Magic aren't going to trade Dwight unless Gil or Hedo goes with him. The Nets can't take that on.

Not many players in the NBA are capable of averaging 20PPG while not missing one game over an 82 game season. Lopez has a career average of nearly eight boards per game. He battled through mono, a calcium deposit in his arm (just had surgery to remove it) and still played in every game this season. That couldn't be any further from "soft."

Let's take a look at Lopez and Bynum's career stats:

Bynum
PPG: 10.5
RPB: 7.1
BPG: 1.5
Games played per season: 55.3

Lopez
PPG: 17.4
RPB: 7.6
BPG: 1.7
Games played per season: 82

Lopez played next to Humphries this year. The guy who finished fifth in RPG and tied Howard for second in the league in RP48 minutes (18).

The Lakers are one of probably two teams who are worse off than the Magic, in terms of salaries and luxury tax. We can easily take on Dwight and either Hedo/Arenas if a deal is done this summer.

What I've gathered from you, is that you'd rather have the Magic continue to wallow in mediocrity by swapping some more bad contracts, rather than hit the reset button. Scoring centers don't grow on trees, and next year's draft projects to be one of the strongest the NBA has seen in a long time.

Otis Smith may actually be dumb enough to take on two of Bynum/Odom/Gasol and not have anything to show for it in a year or so.

Ultimately, it's Otis Smith's choice, and he's seen what happened with his team just swapping bad contracts, it drove his franchise center right out of Orlando.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Lol if you're really going to compare career stats, you're more ignorant than I thought. Bynum came into the league as raw as any player I've seen in the past ten years. He took a few years to develop but right now he is the second best center in the league (only one better is the one currently in Orlando). Sure, Lopez averages more points. Bynum has never had the luxury of being on a terrible team where he is the go-to guy. He's always been the second post option for the Lakers. I haven't even mentioned that while Bynum is a great defensive and rebounding center, Lopez is an average defender (awful foot speed) and terrible rebounder (29th out of 30 qualified centers in rebounds per 48 minutes).

Sure, scoring centers don't grow on trees, but Lopez isn't a guy you can build around. And you say that Bynum wouldn't resign. First of all, why wouldn't he? Second of all, what's the guarantee that Lopez would? Your logic has plenty of flaws.

The Lakers have plenty of cap problems themselves, but they have plenty of good players on big contracts that they'd be willing to exchange in order to bring in Gilbert/Hedo. Comparing what the Magic could get from the Lakers and from the Nets, talent wise, it's not even close.

And the Magic wallow in mediocrity? haha that's a good one. I guess the nets were mediocre during the Kidd era.

 

[VC15]

Lol if you're really going to compare career stats, you're more ignorant than I thought. Bynum came into the league as raw as any player I've seen in the past ten years. He took a few years to develop but right now he is the second best center in the league (only one better is the one currently in Orlando). Sure, Lopez averages more points. Bynum has never had the luxury of being on a terrible team where he is the go-to guy. He's always been the second post option for the Lakers. I haven't even mentioned that while Bynum is a great defensive and rebounding center, Lopez is an average defender (awful foot speed) and terrible rebounder (29th out of 30 qualified centers in rebounds per 48 minutes).

Sure, scoring centers don't grow on trees, but Lopez isn't a guy you can build around. And you say that Bynum wouldn't resign. First of all, why wouldn't he? Second of all, what's the guarantee that Lopez would? Your logic has plenty of flaws.

The Lakers have plenty of cap problems themselves, but they have plenty of good players on big contracts that they'd be willing to exchange in order to bring in Gilbert/Hedo. Comparing what the Magic could get from the Lakers and from the Nets, talent wise, it's not even close.

And the Magic wallow in mediocrity? haha that's a good one. I guess the nets were mediocre during the Kidd era.

This response clearly proves that you did not read my entire post in its entirety. Lopez played next to a PF who had a RP48 that was equal to Howard's this season. Why have Bynum and Lopez averaged nearly the same amount of rebounds over the course of their careers? Why does Bynum miss nearly 30 games per season, while Lopez has yet to miss a game? Why would Bynum want to spend his prime years rebuilding, when he's played for a good team for his entire career? It is a well known fact that Lopez loves Disney World (or whatever it is down there) and his best friend in the league, Ryan Anderson, plays for the Magic.

As far as wallowing in mediocrity, the Magic couldn't get out of the first round with the second best player in the league on their team. Why would they be better off with an injury prone center and Odom.

Again, look at Denver. They went for the talent, but they won't be able to re-sign all of those guys. Orlando would essentially be repeating that mistake, if they trade for Odom and Bynum (who are essentially expiring deals).

But if you would rather build a new foundation with a center who is guaranteed to miss a minimum of 20 games per season (and would likely leave next year), as opposed to a player who would WANT to play for your team, well, more power to you.

Let's look at how the two match up when they face each other:


If you're still not convinced that Lopez is easily the better player, let's see what Magic coach Stan Van Gundy thinks of Brook:

Van Gundy said he voted for Nets Center Brook Lopez for this year's All-Star team

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-03-05/sports/os-orlando-magic-notes-0306-20100305_1_patrick-ewing-stan-van-gundy-reggie-miller

Game. Set. Match.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

If you're still not convinced that Lopez is easily the better player, let's see what Magic coach Stan Van Gundy thinks of Brook:



Game. Set. Match.

Brook Lopez is in the East and Andrew Bynum is in the West. The fact that you actually tried to use that as an arguement proves how dumb you are.

 

[VC15]

Brook Lopez is in the East and Andrew Bynum is in the West. The fact that you actually tried to use that as an arguement proves how dumb you are.

Not really. That part had nothing to do with Bynum. You call Lopez a stat-padder, when your own coach believes that Brook is an all-star talent.

I'm waiting for you to refute the rest of my points. Luckily I just finished up my finals, so I'll have all the time in the world until September.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Not really. That part had nothing to do with Bynum. You call Lopez a stat-padder, when your own coach believes that Brook is an all-star talent.

I'm waiting for you to refute the rest of my points. Luckily I just finished up my finals, so I'll have all the time in the world until September.

What centers are he going to vote in over him? Al Horford who isn't even a center, Joakim Noah who missed a good part of the first half?

My point is that you cannot build around Brook Lopez. Perfect proof: The Nets. He is their best scorer and they are a TERRIBLE team. He's like Devin Harris in center form. He'll put up enough points to make it look like he's a good NBA player, but when you dive deeper into the stats, you realize he's not really that great. But then again I'm talking to the guy who had Devin Harris as his screen name.... You know what? I'm just going to stop. It's like talking to a wall. A very dumb wall.