Lions go 8-8 next season

[CameronCrazy06]

I never said easy, nothing is easy in the NFL. You are putting words in my mouth that I am not saying. I said they have a favorable schedule, a schedule that they can rack up some wins.

They have a chance at beating any team within in the division. They CAN beat the Raiders, Broncos, Buccaneers, 49ers, Panthers, and possibly Chiefs. Possibly even a few other teams. Will they? I don't know. But can they? Yes.

SMH anybody can beat anybody. Might as well chalk them up for 16 wins then.

 

[kam.]

People fail to realize we were a couple plays away from a 8/9 win season last year. We learned to close out games too late in the season.

Thought we wasn't suppose to base wins this season off of wins last season? cause "its a new team" ??? So, if we can't say based on this year, they won't be a 10 win team next season. How can you say they WILL be a 10 win team based on this year. Don't give me the whole "we was a couple plays from 8/9 wins" because they still failed to make the plays. The Colts can use the excuse then "If we didnt have injured players, we would of made the superbowl".

Based on next years schedule.. I don't see them winning 10 games.

Worst case for next year - 5-11
Best Case for next year - 8-8/7-9

You gotta realize that while the Lions may get better this offseason, so will every team in the league. Its not like the Lions will be the only team that improved and everybody else stayed the same. The Lions may not even get no big name free agents or no real big home run hitters in free agency, then your logic makes you look silly because then you're relying on a rookie to come in and have this huge impact to completely change the team and put them into playoff contention. Its not gonna be like last year where Suh was the 'sure thing'.

 

[RipCity32]

Lol at you assuming I didn't watch any Lions game. Watch a good amount of 5 of their games this year, plus snippets of others. Obviously you're going to pick them to win 9 because you're a fan, so in reality it's your opinion who really means less. I'm not trying to take shots at you, but like you're a fan. Obviously you're going to overhype them. You picked the Pistons to make the playoffs this year...

I bet you did lol.
If you watched as much as you said, I don't see how it's hard to agree with the things me and Bengals are saying.

But my opinion doesn't mean less lol. I watched every down of football they played this season. I've seen what they can do, and I know what they are capable of doing. So don't try to sit here and tell me that someone who supposedly watched parts of 5 our games can better predict what they will do next season, then someone who watched all 16 games in their entirety.
That's like me trying to predict Duke basketball better than you. I watched them every so often, but obviously you could predict them better than I could.
I thought you were better than that...

And I predicted the Pistons in the playoffs eh? lol.
Considering I've mainly been lobbying for a blow-out and a good draft pick, I highly doubt I did that lol. And perhaps I said 8th seed at best at some point, which really isn't that crazy either, considering we are like 2 games out of 8th place..

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

SMH anybody can beat anybody. Might as well chalk them up for 16 wins then.

Is all I'm saying is they have the talent to win games. I'm not saying they are going to win the division and win the Super Bowl, but you never know, it's the NFL, anything could happen. But since it's the Lions, a team that has struggled, everyone bases it off of that instead of looking at the positive direction the organization as a whole is going.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

Thought we wasn't suppose to base wins this season off of wins last season? cause "its a new team" ??? So, if we can't say based on this year, they won't be a 10 win team next season. How can you say they WILL be a 10 win team based on this year. Don't give me the whole "we was a couple plays from 8/9 wins" because they still failed to make the plays. The Colts can use the excuse then "If we didnt have injured players, we would of made the superbowl".

Based on next years schedule.. I don't see them winning 10 games.

Worst case for next year - 5-11
Best Case for next year - 8-8/7-9

You gotta realize that while the Lions may get better this offseason, so will every team in the league. Its not like the Lions will be the only team that improved and everybody else stayed the same. The Lions may not even get no big name free agents or no real big home run hitters in free agency, then your logic makes you look silly because then you're relying on a rookie to come in and have this huge impact to completely change the team and put them into playoff contention. Its not gonna be like last year where Suh was the 'sure thing'.

Thank you, someone with reason.

Who Dey, I'm not saying the organization isn't going in a positive direction, but just because they won 4 straight to end the season doesn't mean they're winning 8+ next year. The Browns did the same thing last year and went 5-11 this year...

 

[RipCity32]

Thought we wasn't suppose to base wins this season off of wins last season? cause "its a new team" ??? So, if we can't say based on this year, they won't be a 10 win team next season. How can you say they WILL be a 10 win team based on this year. Don't give me the whole "we was a couple plays from 8/9 wins" because they still failed to make the plays. The Colts can use the excuse then "If we didnt have injured players, we would of made the superbowl".

Based on next years schedule.. I don't see them winning 10 games.

Worst case for next year - 5-11
Best Case for next year - 8-8/7-9

You gotta realize that while the Lions may get better this offseason, so will every team in the league. Its not like the Lions will be the only team that improved and everybody else stayed the same. The Lions may not even get no big name free agents or no real big home run hitters in free agency, then your logic makes you look silly because then you're relying on a rookie to come in and have this huge impact to completely change the team and put them into playoff contention. Its not gonna be like last year where Suh was the 'sure thing'.

I am basing those predictions off of the "couple plays from 8/9 wins" because it's the truth. We are a young team, who made stupid plays at the end of games. We didn't learn how to close games out until the end of the season.
And I never said we need home run hitters in free agency. A few upgrades here and there is all we need. Would a home-run hitter be beneficial? Absolutely. Will be get one? Probably not.
But settling for second-teir players is no problem to me.

 

[kam.]

I am basing those predictions off of the "couple plays from 8/9 wins" because it's the truth. We are a young team, who made stupid plays at the end of games. We didn't learn how to close games out until the end of the season.
And I never said we need home run hitters in free agency. A few upgrades here and there is all we need. Would a home-run hitter be beneficial? Absolutely. Will be get one? Probably not.
But settling for second-teir players is no problem to me.

Then you can't tell us that we're wrong because the Lions are "a new team" when you're basing them off the same team.

And, it doesn't matter if its the truth.. closing games or not.. the plays didn't happen..

Should of, could of, would of, .. but it didn't happen..

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

Thank you, someone with reason.

Who Dey, I'm not saying the organization isn't going in a positive direction, but just because they won 4 straight to end the season doesn't mean they're winning 8+ next year. The Browns did the same thing last year and went 5-11 this year...

That doesn't mean anything. The Bengals were 10-6 and came back 4-12 the following year. Just because the Browns did the same thing don't mean anything, the Lions have more talent than the Browns do. Anything can happen, crazy things happen. Look at the Bucs and Chiefs this year, who woulda thunk it?

 

[RipCity32]

Then you can't tell us that we're wrong because the Lions are "a new team" when you're basing them off the same team.

And, it doesn't matter if its the truth.. closing games or not.. the plays didn't happen..

Should of, could of, would of, .. but it didn't happen..

It's obviously the same team.
When I say "new team" it's cause people are still stuck in 2008. We aren't the same team that went 0-16..

And I realize that obviously. A win is a win, a loss is a loss. But previous years, the Lions weren't even in the situations in which closing out games was the issue. Cause we were never in the lead and playing good football. It was us trying to lose by less than 21 every game pretty much.

The culture is different for Lions football. Whether or not you see it, or want to believe it, is up to you.
I know what I believe, and I know what tons of other Lions fans believe.

 

[RipCity32]

That doesn't mean anything. The Bengals were 10-6 and came back 4-12 the following year. Just because the Browns did the same thing don't mean anything, the Lions have more talent than the Browns do. Anything can happen, crazy things happen. Look at the Bucs and Chiefs this year, who woulda thunk it?

You know who would of thunk it? Bucs and Chiefs fans. Cause they know their teams.
I thought Blake was a MORON for saying the Bucs were a playoff team before the season started, now I'm the moron.

 

[RipCity32]

And yes, I'm aware the Bucs didn't make the playoffs. But obviously turned it around big time and won 10 games.

Bucs are also in a tough division, much like the Lions.

 

[kam.]

It's obviously the same team.
When I say "new team" it's cause people are still stuck in 2008. We aren't the same team that went 0-16..

And I realize that obviously. A win is a win, a loss is a loss. But previous years, the Lions weren't even in the situations in which closing out games was the issue. Cause we were never in the lead and playing good football. It was us trying to lose by less than 21 every game pretty much.

The culture is different for Lions football. Whether or not you see it, or want to believe it, is up to you.
I know what I believe, and I know what tons of other Lions fans believe.

No, I'm not talking about the 2008 team.

Mayhew now makes the decisions for the Lions, and while he's did a good job so far. The Matthew Stafford pick will make or break him on if he becomes a good QB or becomes another Alex Smith.

You believe your team is a 10 win team now, but around this time, every fan feels their team will be "playoff bound" around this time. Doesn't mean they will be. Lions aren't like the Falcons or somebody whos already been rebuilt, they are still in rebuilding mode. The Lions need to upgrade the Oline first and protect that 72 million dollar investment before they worry about defense. Know how many times Peyton Manning has had a shitty defense but yet still took his team to the playoffs time after time after time after time again? Which if you have a QB with a quick release, then the Oline is not AS important.. still plays a major part, but not as much because like Manning, for so long he made his Oline.

Now, nobody here is talking about 2008. What are you talking about? I believe me and Cameron are talking about this year.

 

[RipCity32]

Our O-Line wasn't even bad.
The first injury to Stafford was bad, yes. Backus got beat, Peppers made the play. Peppers is also one of the best DE's in all of football.
As for his second injury, wasn't the O-Line's fault. Stafford just fell on his shoulder like an idiot.

At the end of the season, Lions o-line was really good, and it showed as we actually won games.

It's all about installing that winning culture.

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

No, I'm not talking about the 2008 team.

Mayhew now makes the decisions for the Lions, and while he's did a good job so far. The Matthew Stafford pick will make or break him on if he becomes a good QB or becomes another Alex Smith.

You believe your team is a 10 win team now, but around this time, every fan feels their team will be "playoff bound" around this time. Doesn't mean they will be. Lions aren't like the Falcons or somebody whos already been rebuilt, they are still in rebuilding mode. The Lions need to upgrade the Oline first and protect that 72 million dollar investment before they worry about defense. Know how many times Peyton Manning has had a shitty defense but yet still took his team to the playoffs time after time after time after time again? Which if you have a QB with a quick release, then the Oline is not AS important.. still plays a major part, but not as much because like Manning, for so long he made his Oline.

Now, nobody here is talking about 2008. What are you talking about? I believe me and Cameron are talking about this year.

So why bash him when he believes in his team? If I recall, you were bashing me for not giving the Jaguars a chance, well we see how that worked out. There's signs of optimism, being in Michigan my entire life, it's good to see Lions fans with hope, something they haven't had in FOREVER. You can't say, right or wrong, but he has the right to believe.

 

[kam.]

So why bash him when he believes in his team? If I recall, you were bashing me for not giving the Jaguars a chance, well we see how that worked out. There's signs of optimism, being in Michigan my entire life, it's good to see Lions fans with hope, something they haven't had in FOREVER. You can't say, right or wrong, but he has the right to believe.

I'm not bashing him, I'm voicing my opinion.. and he's expressing his. I'm sure nomatter what I say, he's not going to change his mind. Which is good that he's standing his ground, but if people wasn't allowed to disagree.. then these forums don't need to exist.

 

[RipCity32]

Lions were the 4th least sacked team in the NFC.
3 teams ahead of them were the Giants, Falcons, and Saints (all 10 win teams).

 

[WHO-DEY-BENGALS_18]

I'm not bashing him, I'm voicing my opinion.. and he's expressing his. I'm sure nomatter what I say, he's not going to change his mind. Which is good that he's standing his ground, but if people wasn't allowed to disagree.. then these forums don't need to exist.

I fully agree debates are good for the forum, there's no doubt about that. But I can see where he's coming from, they seem to be turning the corner. Time will tell. I think they win at least 8 games and I stand by that.

 

[kam.]

Lions were the 4th least sacked team in the NFC.
3 teams ahead of them were the Giants, Falcons, and Saints (all 10 win teams).

Yes, but the age is there.. can't keep them forever and just draft "hopeful" replacements in later rounds.
You need a franchise LT or a pair of future bookends.

 

[RipCity32]

Yes, but the age is there.. can't keep them forever and just draft "hopeful" replacements in later rounds.
You need a franchise LT or a pair of future bookends.

All the players on our line are really at their primes right now. (aside for Godser, who showed much improvement from last season)
Age is there, I agree. But we can worry about filling those needs later. Right now, our future O-Line isn't our biggest issue. Especially if we are in win-now mode.

 

[kam.]

I fully agree debates are good for the forum, there's no doubt about that. But I can see where he's coming from, they seem to be turning the corner. Time will tell. I think they win at least 8 games and I stand by that.

I said the best they will do is 8 teams, So I don't know why you are the one thats calling me out. I agree, from Matt Millen, they are turning the corner. They have alot of question marks first before they make the playoffs. I also don't think any player like Nnamdi or Champ is just going to forget about a ring and try to help rebuild the Lions team so they can "hopefully" make the playoffs when they could join a already playoff team and contend for a ring.