2010 AL Gold Glove Winners

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1. Pitcher - Mark Buehrle - Chicago White Sox

2. Catcher - Joe Mauer - Minnesota Twins

3. First Base - Mark Teixeira - New York Yankees

4. Secon Base - Robinson Cano - New York Yankees

5. Third Base - Evan Longoria - Tampa Bay Rays

6. Short Stop - Derek Jeter - New York Yankees

7. Outfield - Ichiro Suzuki - Seattle Mariners

8. Outfield - Franklin Gutierrez - Seattle Mariners

9. Outfield - Carl Crawford - Tampa Bay Ray

Derek Jeter?? Cmon now. I know he had the fewest and the highest fielding % but he wasn't even that great defensively. GG voting is ridiculous.
 

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Derek Jeter being selected is a joke. I would take Elvis Andrus over him any day. Mark Buerhle I feel got it based off of that sick play he made on opening day. Im fine with all the other selections.
 

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I'll take three gold glove recepients without complaints.
 

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No Roid Sux players are on the list!

What a great baseball team!
 

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I have heard people say before, "It is sometimes an achievement not to win a Gold Glove."

With the joke this is, they are right.
 

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How did Theo's philosophy of "pitching and defense" serve the Sox this year?
 

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This has nothing to do with the Sox.

Plus had a great one-two punch this year in Buchholz and Lester
 

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How did Theo's philosophy of "pitching and defense" serve the Sox this year?
Amazing.. all he mentions is that 3 players on your team didn't deserve Gold Gloves and you go all high-koo on his team... yikes. Personal problems at home?


The fact of the matter is that coaches who voted for the Gold Glove recipients, in both leagues, were way off because they look at the reputation of the player and how many errors committed.


Sorry to burst the party in your pants TwillThrill8, but more advanced statistics now used that have a stronger analysis of offense and defensive skills, not just errors, but showing fielding range based on how many balls got by the player, and also +/- rating which judges how many runs less or more a player allows than the average player at that position, prove that Jeter and Cano especially did not deserve the Gold Glove Awards -- it also shows that Teixeira didn't deserve the award, but only by a slim margin.

Don't get me wrong, I'm new to sabermetrics but am quickly becoming a believer in the statistics.

Now, if you're at all interested in pulling your ass out of your head, decide not to try and be a tough guy who uses "oh... well they committed less errors... (because they couldn't reach the ball as many times TO commit the errors).. you're teams suck! HAHAHA!", and actually want to learn about other players throughout the league and learn more about better statistics and gain RESPECT for the SPORT, not just you're happy-g0-lucky fantasy world called The Bronx, then read this article that shows the comparison of ratings, and describes the players being compared:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/joe_lemire/11/10/gold-gloves/index.html?eref=sihp
 

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You're nuts if you think Cano and Tex don't deserve Gold Gloves. Public UZRs are wrong and I watched upwards of 120 Yankee games this year and watching Cano play second is a thing of beauty. The strongest arm of any 2B in the league and he can turn the double play like it's nobodies business. Tex just seems to make impossible player after impossible play and has saved numerous games because of his defense over the last two years that I couldn't even imagine what it would be like to have Giambi back over there again. I'd probably shoot myself at how awful he is :suicide:
 

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Clearly from stats, Gold Glove Winners usually have great offensive abilities. Look at Rafael Palmeiro who played like 34 gams to win a Gold Glove. I wish the award was for players who actually displayed great range, and consistently showed up on the "highlight reel", not someone who commits a few amount of errors. If a player has a sub 200 average, they won't even be considered no matter how well they play in the field. Look at John McDonald in 2007 (not being a homer) but his fielding ability will blow many away.

Also a player is more likely to commit more errors when they make more "highlight reel" plays because they are taking chances to make an error. Usually diving for a ball, or throwing from the knees is going to force a player to make a bad throw or bobble the ball from time to time, while some players who win the Gold Glove don't even bother to make an effort.
 

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You're nuts if you think Cano and Tex don't deserve Gold Gloves. Public UZRs are wrong and I watched upwards of 120 Yankee games this year and watching Cano play second is a thing of beauty. The strongest arm of any 2B in the league and he can turn the double play like it's nobodies business. Tex just seems to make impossible player after impossible play and has saved numerous games because of his defense over the last two years that I couldn't even imagine what it would be like to have Giambi back over there again. I'd probably shoot myself at how awful he is :suicide:
Based on what? Because you saw a bunch of Yankees games?

I guarantee a Twins fan could say the same thing. So what is your argument based on that another player's fan's argument isn't based on? Because it goes hand in hand.

And it's not solely based on public UZR's, it's also based on the Dewan +/- system.


But oh, I'd love to see hear how the all-knowing "Elite" knows these statistics are false... this is why I hate talking to Yankee fans... they don't want to accept the truth.
 

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I don't have a problem with any of them, except for Jeter. I would of went with Elvis Andrus easily. Even though he has more errors, but he had over 100 more chances than Jeter did, in 3 less games. It's making me believe, as ridiculous as it sounds, that he got the GG just because he's Derek Jeter.
 

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Just because a player didnt commit as many errors doesnt indicate the level of defensive skill by the player. A player who has more range gets to a lot more balls hit than a player who doesnt go for as many balls that he cant reach. I would rather have a player with greater range and more errors than a player with less range and less errors.
 

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Why didn't A-Jack get it for center?
 

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Based on what? Because you saw a bunch of Yankees games?

I guarantee a Twins fan could say the same thing. So what is your argument based on that another player's fan's argument isn't based on? Because it goes hand in hand.

And it's not solely based on public UZR's, it's also based on the Dewan +/- system.


But oh, I'd love to see hear how the all-knowing "Elite" knows these statistics are false... this is why I hate talking to Yankee fans... they don't want to accept the truth.
Jon Heyman has been saying it repeatedly on Twitter the past few days.
 

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Why didn't A-Jack get it for center?
I was thinking about that, but I didn't want to be a homer about it. He'll win some before it's all said and done, but Gutierrez(& Wells) had 0 errors and Gutierrez has a better Range Factor, for now.
 

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Meh. You right McCoy. Jackson will get plenty :)
 

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Jon Heyman has been saying it repeatedly on Twitter the past few days.
But what has he based it on...


I don't want to hear "he said this... he said that".

I want hard-core proof -- statistics or something, that PROVE public UZR isn't accurate.


if Jon Heyman came on Twitter tomorrow morning and said "Mark Teixeira isn't really a baseball player... he's a MAGICIAN!" Would you <Censored>ing believe him?
 

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