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What's the Deal with the Bengals Carson Palmer?
By Eric Ball (Bengals Featured Columnist) on September 27, 2010






Whoever has hijacked the real version of Cincinnati Bengals QB Carson Palmer and replaced him with an extremely mediocre version, please return to sender.

He has been a shell of his former self, dating back to last season. He threw two INTs in the first four drives on Sunday against the Panthers. If the Panthers secondary had any resemblance of good hands, he would have ended up with three or four more interceptions.

The laundry list of excuses is becoming comical. Sunday's included a wet ball, offensive line inconsistencies, predictable play calling by the offensive coordinator and timing issues with the receivers.

Last year apologists pointed to the lack of weapons at Palmer's disposal. They brought in Terrell Owens, Jordan Shipley and Jermaine Gresham to fix that. Andre Caldwell went from the No. 2 receiver in the playoff game against the Jets to a guy that can barely get on the field this year.

Yet the passing offense still stinks.

How did Palmer allow time to expire at the end of the first half with the ball inside the Carolina five? That's the kind of mistake a rookie makes. Not a seven-year veteran.

Something isn't right with Palmer, both mentally and physically. He has been short arming throws, blowing time-outs to avoid delay of game penalties, and he hasn't even been able to complete the easiest of throws.

Simple throws in the three-drop set, such as the out route, the underneath crossers. A basic route like the slant even has been poorly executed.

Palmer does not look comfortable and he doesn't seem to have any rhythm with Owens or Chad Ochocinco. Owens is understandable, but Chad?

The deep ball has been non-existent in the first three games. Palmer used to throw one of the prettiest deep balls in all of the NFL. Now it's an adventure to complete a screen pass.

Check some of his stats, courtesy of Lance McAlister:

QB Rating


22. Palmer. 71.3
He ranks behind the likes of Bruce Gradkowski, Seneca Wallace, Vince Young and Matt Cassel.

Completion percentage:


26. Carson Palmer, 56.6
He ranks behind the likes of Sam Bradford, Shaun Hill and Alex Smith

Yards per attempt


29. Carson Palmer, 5.80
He ranks behind the likes of Derek Anderson, Matt Moore and Alex Smith

This isn't a "the sky is falling" sentiment. But how can you not be somewhat concerned?

Maybe the receivers aren't always running the correct route. Maybe the O-line has been mediocre at best. Maybe the running game hasn't taken off like it did last year. But it looks as if the 2010 Bengals are what they are, a great D that will need to carry the offense.

The Bengals were able to coast against an awful Panthers team. A performance like Sunday will not cut it against the likes of Pittsburgh, Indy or New Orleans—three teams the Bengals will face later this season.

Palmer needs to figure things out mentally first. No more delay of games. No more losing out on easy points due to the clock running out. No more miscommunications with the rest of the offense.

Once the mental side is cleared up, then Palmer can work on his mechanics and footwork. Unfortunately, it's baby steps right now for the Bengals. Luckily they play the Browns and the Buccaneers before the bye week.

Maybe the offense will take the next three weeks to figure it all out. Maybe Palmer will make the necessary adjustments and everything will be fine.

Yes 2-1 is 2-1. It's exactly where most figured they would be after three games.

So there is plenty of time to figure this out. But right now the offense is the biggest issue on a team that has a ton of potential in an ultra competitive AFC North.

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I just want to know what others think because I like to deny the fact because I'm a huge Carson Palmer fan and hate to see everything going on/him taking a ton of heat. I don't think he is the same QB anymore, my question is why??? Generally the offensive line does enough to give him time to throw (not always), he has some pretty good WR's with Chad Ochocinco, Terrell Owens, Jordan Shipley, Jermaine Gresham, pretty solid running game but yet the offense is just a total nightmare. Many thought with the key additions on offense would make a huge difference including myself but still don't see it and really start to question if I ever will see it again with Carson as the QB and it hurts me a lot to think this. From a casual NFL fan, outside from the Bengals what do you guys see? What might be the reason? Other than "He's washed up", "He doesn't have it anymore, "He never was that great to begin with." I want to know what is wrong, the man is healthy or I at least think he is unless he's hiding something. Some of throws I've seen him make lately have literally disappointed me, sad thing is I'm starting to see it more all the time. To a guy with a lot of potential upside/talent what has happened?? Had the Panthers caught half the balls on defense, he could have easily had 6 INT's in that game, just literally throwing it to the opposing team making me instantly think - WTF CARSON??? What has happened?? You are better than this. Something is just completely wrong and I can't figure it out. Is it physically? Mentally? Both? If he continues to play the way he is, were going to get absolutely cremated. If he continues to play the way he is, I wouldn't be surprised at all if we lost to the Browns and that says a lot. I just keep asking myself this every night, wondering what has happened to my favorite player in the NFL. The more I see, the more I want to puke, because it just isn't right, something is wrong.
 

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Your defense is too good to let this team lose to the Browns, but I really dont know, I thought Palmer was set to have his career best year tbh. So i have no idea if hes hiding something, if his time off ruined him, what? I just don't know
 

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Your defense is too good to let this team lose to the Browns, but I really dont know, I thought Palmer was set to have his career best year tbh. So i have no idea if hes hiding something, if his time off ruined him, what? I just don't know
I don't know either but I surely wonder. One thing I do know is, if you pressure him he's going to make mistakes, he freaks out and throws it into quadruple coverage. I think after he got injured, he's just insecure now, he doesn't want anyone by his legs. Bad thing is, it don't matter how good the defense is, he needs to play better. Nearly throwing 6 INT's against the Panthers would've been taken back for at least two TD's had they caught them. I thought he was going to have a good year as well and prove the doubters wrong like he said, but so far it's been embarrassing. Every time he'd pass that game I'd freak thinking it would be going to the other team.
 

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I still think they need to bench him, send him a message that if he can't make plays, he's out. Sign Trent Edwards, let him learn the offense, start him. Then let him and Palmer battle for the starting job.
 

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I still think they need to bench him, send him a message that if he can't make plays, he's out. Sign Trent Edwards, let him learn the offense, start him. Then let him and Palmer battle for the starting job.
Maybe if they were losing and needing to try something to get the offense sparked. Carson is making good money right now, I'm sure the Bengals wouldn't want to lose out on that.
 

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Yeah, but they probably won't keep getting lucky for long. They need something to happen on offense. And unless Palmer changes how he plays, they need to go with someone else.
 

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Yeah, but they probably won't keep getting lucky for long. They need something to happen on offense. And unless Palmer changes how he plays, they need to go with someone else.
I don't really think they've gotten lucky, the defense has won both games but they will need to improve on offense to get anywhere, you are right on that. The defense can only carry the team so far. I still have a little bit of hope, lets hope he gets it together real soon.
 

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IMO, he's gonna be the QB for entire year, they have nothing else to throw out there. Palmer is their only option.
 

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He sucks. We went over this last year.
 
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