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SHUT THE <Censored> UP ABOUT THIS DUMB <Censored>.BLAH BLAH LEBRON THIS LEBRON THAT <Censored> YOU. ITS BASKETBALL IT WONT AFFECT U SO WHO CARES. THANK YOU. BYE.
 

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Jordan MADE Pippen. Last time I checked Pippen didnt win anything without Jordan. I feel that Lebron can go wherever he wants, its his happiness not mine. It just irks me that this isnt good for the league. Its like saying that Pujols, Utley, and Hanley were going to sign with the Yankees to win a ring. There is no parody, yea I will here that they havent won anything yet. But are you so naive to think that they arent going to win multiple championships? This is just not fair for the rest of the teams in the league.
FPS...I don't think you really understand the Bulls of the 90's to say something like that. Jordan didn't MAKE Scottie Pippen. If Jordan had that power, then he could of turned the rest of the bench into Scottie Pippen's and really made life easy. Now what Jordan did was make those who played with him better (something Lebron has failed to do) but Scottie Pippen wasn't some slouch turned into All-Star b/c of Michael Jordan.

Are you so naive that you're ready to crown the Heat a "dynasty" before you even see LBJ, Wade, and Bosh play a single NBA regular season game together?
 

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There's no set rules or standards on when a championship-less great player should leave his team and go ring chasing. Malone waited until the door was almost shut on his career and guess what...he's got nothing. Would you want to go out the same way?

Let Lebron get his and let's let it go for now. The Miami Heat could end up the most entertaining starting line-up to ever play the game...and they could very well end up the biggest bust of all-time. Either way, we don't know what they are going to do or they will end up playing.

I can understand the disappointment of the fans and I sympathize with Cleveland (except Dan Gilbert) but I just can't feel sorry for those who seem to be disappointed that Lebron will never reach the heights of Michael Jordan. Comparing Jordan to Lebron is the media's fault, it was always an inaccurate and unfair assessment, and obviously comparing Lebron to Jordan to Lebron now is still ridiculous.
Well, yeah. His game is much more similar to Magic Johnson's anyway haha. And the media isn't the only one comparing him with Jordan. He's been doing that himself for years.

Like the others have said, it's simply entertaining for the best to beat up on each other. Just think of how much mroe fun it'd have been to watch LeBron try to take down Bosh and Wade as a Cavalier, or a Knick? Him and Amare vs D-Wade and Bosh, reviving the old Knicks-Heat rivalry? Cavs-Heat duels in the Eastern Conference finals for years to come? Consolidation of power is bad for the overall quality of the league, and I'm still doubtful it will work for the Heat. I see major chemistry issues down the road and a bad divorce eventually, but that's just me. Magic GM said it best, when asked if he saw a power shift in the NBA. "Is Kobe retiring?"
 

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Well, yeah. His game is much more similar to Magic Johnson's anyway haha. And the media isn't the only one comparing him with Jordan. He's been doing that himself for years.

Like the others have said, it's simply entertaining for the best to beat up on each other. Just think of how much mroe fun it'd have been to watch LeBron try to take down Bosh and Wade as a Cavalier, or a Knick? Him and Amare vs D-Wade and Bosh, reviving the old Knicks-Heat rivalry? Cavs-Heat duels in the Eastern Conference finals for years to come? Consolidation of power is bad for the overall quality of the league, and I'm still doubtful it will work for the Heat. I see major chemistry issues down the road and a bad divorce eventually, but that's just me. Magic GM said it best, when asked if he saw a power shift in the NBA. "Is Kobe retiring?"
I look at Lebron once saying, "I'm gonna chase the legacy of Jordan", as something too outlandish to take to heart. It sounds like a young kid, overhyped, and playing into all the "Chosen One" and "King James" Bulljive. I grew up idolizing Jordan myself and even my skinny, can't jump, white-ass probably once said that I was going to chase his legacy also.

I see the entertainment value and competitive nature taking somewhat of a hit with this new "Bro-Pact" but you're the one who just said that the NBA isn't as competitive as it used to be anyways. These guys enter the league in the same draft class and somehow end up BFF's...even though they live in all different parts of this country. Believe me, I LOVED what the NBA of the 90's offered...but we're in a new era. We're in a totally different era of the league and the thing now-a-days is how many All Stars can we afford to join forces, on the same team?
 

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FPS...I don't think you really understand the Bulls of the 90's to say something like that. Jordan didn't MAKE Scottie Pippen. If Jordan had that power, then he could of turned the rest of the bench into Scottie Pippen's and really made life easy. Now what Jordan did was make those who played with him better (something Lebron has failed to do) but Scottie Pippen wasn't some slouch turned into All-Star b/c of Michael Jordan.

Are you so naive that you're ready to crown the Heat a "dynasty" before you even see LBJ, Wade, and Bosh play a single NBA regular season game together?
Well I consider it a domino effect now. Think about it, who wouldnt want to play for the Heat now? Thats where the main event is at now. Everyone is going to want to play for the Heat for practically nothing. Because they all know that they have a great opportunity to win a ring. 2 of the best players in the league are going to be teammates, there is NO WAY that they dont win multiple championships. They are just too great alone to not co-exist together. They already played very well together in the Olympics, I think they can easily translate that to the NBA.
 

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I look at Lebron once saying, "I'm gonna chase the legacy of Jordan", as something too outlandish to take to heart. It sounds like a young kid, overhyped, and playing into all the "Chosen One" and "King James" Bulljive. I grew up idolizing Jordan myself and even my skinny, can't jump, white-ass probably once said that I was going to chase his legacy also.

I see the entertainment value and competitive nature taking somewhat of a hit with this new "Bro-Pact" but you're the one who just said that the NBA isn't as competitive as it used to be anyways. These guys enter the league in the same draft class and somehow end up BFF's...even though they live in all different parts of this country. Believe me, I LOVED what the NBA of the 90's offered...but we're in a new era. We're in a totally different era of the league and the thing now-a-days is how many All Stars can we afford to join forces, on the same team?
I guess one good thing comes of this. Every team, front office, and executive will be gunning for the Heat. Maybe this is going to bring the hate back in the NBA.

I do admit that I can't wait for the return trip to Cleveland.
 

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Well I consider it a domino effect now. Think about it, who wouldnt want to play for the Heat now? Thats where the main event is at now. Everyone is going to want to play for the Heat for practically nothing. Because they all know that they have a great opportunity to win a ring. 2 of the best players in the league are going to be teammates, there is NO WAY that they dont win multiple championships. They are just too great alone to not co-exist together. They already played very well together in the Olympics, I think they can easily translate that to the NBA.
I disagree there. Olympic Ball is a whole different ballgame than the NBA. D-Wade and LeBron went into the Olympics understanding that they wouldn't be able to dominate the ball like they do in the NBA, and they were going to have to make major sacrifices to win for their country.

The NBA is a whole 'nother animal. Both are used to having the ball in their hands all the time, both are used to being the primary playmaker on their teams. It's going to take some huge getting used to.
 

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Well I consider it a domino effect now. Think about it, who wouldnt want to play for the Heat now? Thats where the main event is at now. Everyone is going to want to play for the Heat for practically nothing. Because they all know that they have a great opportunity to win a ring. 2 of the best players in the league are going to be teammates, there is NO WAY that they dont win multiple championships. They are just too great alone to not co-exist together. They already played very well together in the Olympics, I think they can easily translate that to the NBA.
Hey...I once witnessed (no pun intended) "The Glove" and "The Mailman" join an already dominant Laker team and thought, "No way in hell do they not win the title". I will admit that I see the Heat winning at least 2 NBA titles but I am also keeping my guard up for what could be the biggest free agent bust in the history of the game. Either way, this isn't all about the Miami Heat and I am no Heat fan. I am merely standing up for LeBron and his motives for joining a new team. I don't expect people to be totally "hunkie-doorie" about the move but I am not cool with the degree of hatred being poured at the guy right now.

I don't agree with HOW he left but I do agree with WHY he left Cleveland. The TV special was total bullsh*t and no matter who's idea it was....I can only say that I blame the media for a lot of things these days.
 

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People just shouldn't bother arguing with AE. He's the mature one here so obviously he's right.
 

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People just shouldn't bother arguing with AE. He's the mature one here so obviously he's right.
Making it a point to ignore you from now on...so don't even bother coming at me like this anymore.
 

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I mean, I'm just saying you're right. Congrats man.
 

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Don't let the topic descend into bull<Censored> now. We've had some solid discussion here
 

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The Pistons roughed Jordan's ass up, his first few years, but again...Jordan was never in the position to leave Chicago, so where's the comparison? Even if, we all knew what the Pistons had going was coming to an end and ironically coming to and end at about the start of Jordan's prime.

Have you ever said something in your life and then went back on it? Most people have and even those who claim to have never broke a legit promise have contradicted something they only said because it was "the heat of the moment". So LeBron has tattoos that refer to him as being "King" and being "Chosen One"....and...? Is the guy supposed to have stayed in Cleveland forever b/c of what he has tattooed on his back? Think about the logic behind thinking that.

On one hand, "Lebron is joining the best" and then the other hand, I'm heard all about how the Heat won't win any Championships. Which is it? Lebron played on a "Redeem Team" that allowed him to play with close friends, dominate the floor, play as a team, and win a championship. That's where it all started, his first and only taste of being a Champion at the professional level...and this is what he's looking for in the next 4 years of his NBA career.

Call him a "Pippen" all you want but Scottie's got rings and in the end, when the game has passed you by, those rings are what still count...not what people thought of your career decisions some years ago.
First think that came to mind was Bret Favre. Well I can understand people's frustration with LeBron. Yes he had the potential of winning on his own, but it came down to mental toughness. I can't really say he took the easy way out because until we see how things go in the season nothing is set in stone. I kind of don't understand one thing though. If sports analyst and members on this board said that if he went to the Bulls it would've been a better choice because he would win a championship easy there. Isn't that kind of contradictory of what you guys say about "taking the easy way out". Just asking out of curiosity the difference between Miami and any other team he can win a title with easy.
 

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First think that came to mind was Bret Favre. Well I can understand people's frustration with LeBron. Yes he had the potential of winning on his own, but it came down to mental toughness. I can't really say he took the easy way out because until we see how things go in the season nothing is set in stone. I kind of don't understand one thing though. If sports analyst and members on this board said that if he went to the Bulls it would've been a better choice because he would win a championship easy there. Isn't that kind of contradictory of what you guys say about "taking the easy way out". Just asking out of curiosity the difference between Miami and any other team he can win a title with easy.
Favre is the King of contradictions and we've all gotten over that. I am also surprised that after that last 2 days, people are still thinking LeBron took "the easy road". This guy's image and love from fans took a huge dump and he had to know it was coming. If anything he's sacrificed way more than his game to potentially win himself some rings.

I also know that reaction outside of Cleveland wouldn't of been this bad, had LBJ choose New York or Chicago. Something I can't explain either.
 

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I disagree there. Olympic Ball is a whole different ballgame than the NBA. D-Wade and LeBron went into the Olympics understanding that they wouldn't be able to dominate the ball like they do in the NBA, and they were going to have to make major sacrifices to win for their country.

The NBA is a whole 'nother animal. Both are used to having the ball in their hands all the time, both are used to being the primary playmaker on their teams. It's going to take some huge getting used to.
I think that if they could manage to co-exist in the Olympics, then it wont be that hard in the NBA. These guys just dont seem like the Iverson type. I strongly believe that winning cures everything and I think that Wade and Lebron have strived so much for winning rings that they will not care about being "the man" as much as people believe will happen. They know what it feels like to not have the proper pieces in place to win so they will be very thankful that they have each other. lol, that last sentence sounds really gay.
 

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I think that if they could manage to co-exist in the Olympics, then it wont be that hard in the NBA. These guys just dont seem like the Iverson type. I strongly believe that winning cures everything and I think that Wade and Lebron have strived so much for winning rings that they will not care about being "the man" as much as people believe will happen. They know what it feels like to not have the proper pieces in place to win so they will be very thankful that they have each other. lol, that last sentence sounds really gay.
Again, watch how that 2008 Olympic team played, and then watch what the Cleveland Cavaliers were this year. LeBron is a dominant player on the basketball court. He has the ball all the time. Any team that LeBron plays on in the NBA is at time sgoing to be reduced to what the Cavs have been. LeBron dribbling around all the damn time, the whole team camping out at the 3 point line, waiting for LeBron to either shoot, or kick the ball out.

D-Wade and LeBron aren't shooters, they're scorers and slashers. Both have dominated the ball since they came into the league, and it's going to be a huge adjustment for them to co-exist, regardless of what's happened in the Olympics. I'm not saying it can't happen, but it's definitely not going to be an immediate thing. I could easily see this whole thing crashing and burning.
 

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Favre is the King of contradictions and we've all gotten over that. I am also surprised that after that last 2 days, people are still thinking LeBron took "the easy road". This guy's image and love from fans took a huge dump and he had to know it was coming. If anything he's sacrificed way more than his game to potentially win himself some rings.

I also know that reaction outside of Cleveland wouldn't of been this bad, had LBJ choose New York or Chicago. Something I can't explain either.
I would've been ok with him going to NY or Chi because it would've still been HIS team. For someone that went on about being the best, choosing to be 2nd best is f/cking ridiculous. Jordan made everyone around him better; that's why he won. His drive to be the best drove everyone around him the best they could be.

This would never be a discussion if LeBron didn't say he wants to be on the same level as MJ, if LeBron didn't have "Chosen One" and "King" tattoos. The "Loyalty" ink doesn't help either, considering he promised a city so much and then left at his first opportunity. What a b/tch.
 

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I would've been ok with him going to NY or Chi because it would've still been HIS team. For someone that went on about being the best, choosing to be 2nd best is f/cking ridiculous. Jordan made everyone around him better; that's why he won. His drive to be the best drove everyone around him the best they could be.

This would never be a discussion if LeBron didn't say he wants to be on the same level as MJ, if LeBron didn't have "Chosen One" and "King" tattoos. The "Loyalty" ink doesn't help either, considering he promised a city so much and then left at his first opportunity. What a b/tch.
So you're telling me that you're not happy with Lebron's decision b/c he didn't choose to be the 1 guy in a team sport...and because of his tattoos?

What also says Chicago would be "his team"? Derrick Rose sarcastically thanks you Zig. Still loving the label that LBJ is the "2nd best player in Miami". Anybody care to wager that Lebron's numbers are still better than Wade's?
 
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