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How can you say it's not when EVERY team pays for it? SMH..
His jump shot percentage is 38% (bad), his free throw percentage is 62% (very bad), and he shoots 21% from three-point range. He is a BAD shooter.

How can you even make this serious argument? Rajon Rondo is not a good jump shooter, everybody knows that. The stats suggest that as well. Saying every team pays for it is dead wrong because Rondo can NOT beat a team with his jumper. End of discussion.
 

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His jump shot percentage is 38% (bad), his free throw percentage is 62% (very bad), and he shoots 21% from three-point range. He is a BAD shooter.

How can you even make this serious argument? Rajon Rondo is not a good jump shooter, everybody knows that. The stats suggest that as well. Saying every team pays for it is dead wrong because Rondo can NOT beat a team with his jumper. End of discussion.
You do realize the Rajon is a PG right? Every team pays for it because his create penetration and court vision. He creates for his teammates and does it all on the court. Where'd you get these stats from? His FG percentage is 48% for his career. No great or anything but not terrible. 24% from 3. I know he's not a 3 point shooter but his game isn't built around him scoring first. I just said that he scores when it's needed. Saying his jumper is terrible would be wrong because numbers don't tell the whole story. Numbers won't tell you when and how he scored it, so your percentages (that are questionable) don't really make a difference.

When did I say that Rajon beats teams with his jumper? You're assuming things that I never even lead on. I'm done with it, if you don't like his jumpers thats not my problem but you're not going to persuade me otherwise.
 

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You do realize the Rajon is a PG right? Every team pays for it because his create penetration and court vision. He creates for his teammates and does it all on the court. Where'd you get these stats from? His FG percentage is 48% for his career. No great or anything but not terrible. 24% from 3. I know he's not a 3 point shooter but his game isn't built around him scoring first. I just said that he scores when it's needed. Saying his jumper is terrible would be wrong because numbers don't tell the whole story. Numbers won't tell you when and how he scored it, so your percentages (that are questionable) don't really make a difference.

When did I say that Rajon beats teams with his jumper? You're assuming things that I never even lead on. I'm done with it, if you don't like his jumpers thats not my problem but you're not going to persuade me otherwise.
I'm well aware that his career field goal percentage is 48%, but that's not what I was talking about. In the 2009-10 season, he shot 38% on jump shots, according to 82games.com. That is a very bad percentage, especially for a guard. I'm not talking about his penetration, his court vision, etc., I'M TALKING ABOUT HIS JUMP SHOT (or lack there of). You stated that every team pays for not guarding his jumper. That's wrong. I honestly do not know what game you're watching, but to say you think he has a good jumper is so beyond preposterous. While your at it, do you think the Atlanta Hawks are a disciplined basketball team too?
 

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I'm well aware that his career field goal percentage is 48%, but that's not what I was talking about. In the 2009-10 season, he shot 38% on jump shots, according to 82games.com. That is a very bad percentage, especially for a guard. I'm not talking about his penetration, his court vision, etc., I'M TALKING ABOUT HIS JUMP SHOT (or lack there of). You stated that every team pays for not guarding his jumper. That's wrong. I honestly do not know what game you're watching, but to say you think he has a good jumper is so beyond preposterous. While your at it, do you think the Atlanta Hawks are a disciplined basketball team too?
Ugh, I hate having to explain more and more... When Rajon passes up on some of those open non guarded opportunities. He creates for other players. Which is what great PGs do. They create for their team. It's not his job to do all the shooting. When I say he makes teams pay for not covering him. I mean that he uses those chances to penetrate and create for his team. Not that he throws up a jumper every time he's open. I never said his jumper was great, I said it's respectable imo. Whether it's respectable to you or not is your decision so I can't do anything about that. and SMH at you trying to bring the Hawks into this....
 

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$tunna, look at it like this

We all agree that Shaq sucks at free throws, correct?

how many times has Shaq gone like 6-6. plenty im sure. just ask cheato to see how he did this year. im sure he had his nights to make teams look like they shouldnt have fouled him

doesnt mean he still doesnt suck at free throws

Rondo is awful. lol did you see him in the 1st Q? he hit the side of the backboard on a corner shot. lmao

but again, 1 shot. i've seen kobe miss poorly too


still, rondo cant shoot. a couple jumpers here or there, so what.
props to him for not really taking jumpers though. but when he does yikes
 

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I give up man. Yall really don't understand what I'm saying at all. Everytime I say anything yall think I'm saying his jumper is Jordan esque. Rondo has a horrible jumper.

Are Yall Happy Now?
 

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Ugh, I hate having to explain more and more... When Rajon passes up on some of those open non guarded opportunities. He creates for other players. Which is what great PGs do. They create for their team. It's not his job to do all the shooting. When I say he makes teams pay for not covering him. I mean that he uses those chances to penetrate and create for his team. Not that he throws up a jumper every time he's open. I never said his jumper was great, I said it's respectable imo. Whether it's respectable to you or not is your decision so I can't do anything about that. and SMH at you trying to bring the Hawks into this....
Yes, and nobody in this thread is denying that he's very good at creating plays for others and himself. But the fact that NO defenders guard his jumper just shows that it is not respectable. As I already stated, 37-38% on jump shots is indeed very bad. He doesn't shoot them all the time because he realizes his jumper is inconsistent and he's HURTING his team if he shoots them. That doesn't mean he can't make one like he did in Game 2. It just means that his jumper is bad and defenders don't respect it/and I really don't understand why you do. I'm not talking about his court vision/playmaking abilities/etc. -- I'M TALKING ABOUT HIS JUMPER. THAT'S IT.
 

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I give up man. Yall really don't understand what I'm saying at all. Everytime I say anything yall think I'm saying his jumper is Jordan esque. Rondo has a horrible jumper.

Are Yall Happy Now?
No one thinks you're saying that.. But saying he has a respectable jumper is just false.. All of his jump shot attempts are wide open and he still doesn't hit a lot of them. No one respects his jumper, they just let him shoot it and he passes it up. You can say to make plays, but he also passes it up cause he cant shoot.
 

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Rondo's jumper is not respectable.

Congrats.
 

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lol it's not

a respectable jumper is like Jordan Farmar
you know he sucks, but he CAN make an open shot
 

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yea stunna, rondo's shot is pretty bad.
 

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Andrew Bynum suffered a setback in his ongoing battle with his injured right knee.

Bynum played just 29 minutes in Game 3 and only four minutes in the fourth quarter after tweaking his knee that has a slight tear of the meniscus in it and was drained last week prior to the start of the championship round.

Bynum said he first bothered the knee in the third quarter while chasing down a loose ball.

"I stopped real hard and I just felt like a twinge," Bynum said. "I notified the training staff and everything so I came out then."

Bynum then tweaked his knee again with 5:17 remaining in the third quarter when he blocked a shot by Boston's Kendrick Perkins.

"[I felt a twinge] again on that block on Perkins," Bynum said. "I think it was just quick movements and sudden things I feel it and then the pain normally goes away and it did."
 

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This is probably the first time that I have not even watched one second of an NBA Finals series. I wonder why...
 

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Like I've told anyone who will listen to me, Celtics ONLY chance is Rondo going off every single game. If he doesn't the Lakers will handle them. I can't believe I saw posts about PERKINS giving the Lakers bigs problems. LOL
 

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Does Pau flop? yes, sometimes
Does Fisher flop? hell yeah, though he's always the smallest guy on the court, so it may be legit more of the time lol

and Sasha too

You guys have been watching the C's
Do the Celtics not flop?

Ray Allen and Paul Pierce are kings
same with Glen Davis

Doc Rivers called out Fisher for flopping. hahahahahaha
 

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Well Fisher does it the most, everyone knows it, he didn't need to state the obvious. Maybe he thinks Fisher will not do it as much since he called him out lol
 

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i remember when i was young
when i was first getting into basketball

during a laker preshow, they did a segment about Fisher being the best in the NBA at "drawing charges". he would make it easy for the refs to blow the whistle when a player ran him over

then i would hear people crying about the Kings flopping, especially Vlade. I was confused


but i love Fish
it's too bad the Lakers only retire HOF numbers. otherwise he'd have his retired alongside Byron Scott, Michael Cooper, etc
any other team. Even the Celtics who retire anyone's jersey

i dont want to see #2 ever worn again on a Laker
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX6NQbhSAAo&feature=popt00us0b epic
 

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Man I love Guillermo. I love when he interviewed manny.
 
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