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Well if our horrid bench guards can fill the minutes when Allen is gone, then we're playing the game right, if you have a team full of horrible players versus a team with the nothing but future Hall of Famers, the horrible team will win because they share the ball seeing as they aren't the greatest, the team full of stars will lose because of their lack of attention to the other 4 men on the court with them, give that some thought...
 

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Well if our horrid bench guards can fill the minutes when Allen is gone, then we're playing the game right, if you have a team full of horrible players versus a team with the nothing but future Hall of Famers, the horrible team will win because they share the ball seeing as they aren't the greatest, the team full of stars will lose because of their lack of attention to the other 4 men on the court with them, give that some thought...
It take like 5 guys.
I mean that ridiculous.
Boston Bench is one of the worst benches in the league.
Without JAMES POSEY this bench is BAD.
 

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With or without James Posey, Boston's bench would be Utah's bench in a game, it's common sense if you ask me... to say that Utah's bench is better then Boston's bench, you've got to be crazy. I understand that you think they're an amazing team, but truly, that bench is not nearly as durable as the bench in Bean Town, we have all kinds of talent on our bench, 80% of Utah's bench stars are nothing but Shooters.
 

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I give this to lonsomefx..

lfx 8/10 didn't really prove to me boston had the better bench
kraig 9/10 had some great points leading to tell me utah had the better bench with some great arguments
 

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LonesomeFX: 8/10, some nice points, but didn't really convince me that Boston had the better bench.

Kriag: 9/10, had some nice points/stats and convinced me that Utah had the better bench of the two.
 

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With or without James Posey, Boston's bench would be Utah's bench in a game, it's common sense if you ask me... to say that Utah's bench is better then Boston's bench, you've got to be crazy. I understand that you think they're an amazing team, but truly, that bench is not nearly as durable as the bench in Bean Town, we have all kinds of talent on our bench, 80% of Utah's bench stars are nothing but Shooters.

Are you serious?
Boston's bench is far from being the Utah Jazz bench... The Jazz bench is competing in the hardest conference in the league and maintained a 40+ win season with a injury plagued year. Yes, Boston has a nice bench but Cleveland's is still better in the east. If you look at how the Jazz has done with young talent you would see how nice their bench is. Even when Carlos Boozer leaves this season other players like Kufous will fill his role. The Celtics bench is actually one of the weakest benches you'll watch in the NBA. What can Stephon Marbury and Mikki Moore do when they are unfamiliar with the teams offense. If you live near Boston or have a chance to watch the Celtics play 82 games you would notice there is almost no depth on there roster. Yes, they have nice players who can cover upto 10-15 minutes of game play but none who will be able to fill the role of there starting five. With the Jazz, players like Paul Millsap who can be a starter in this league when Carlos Boozer leave. Brevin Knight could be a solid starting PG for several teams in this league... Kosta Kufus came in and played some spectacular basketball when Mehmet Okur went down. Other than the Jazz, Lakers, and Spurs the NBA has very weak benches and players who can fill roles.... Even though the Celtics have "name" on there roster... Statistics show the Jazz have a stronger bench... I wouldn't be surprised to see the Celtics be knocked off by a Detroit Piston team in the first round or later on by the Orlando Magic and Cleveland Cavaliers. There are really no one adequate on this team that can fill any roles if a starter goes down. There commitment in the Big 3 is so large it consumes almost there entire salary and this year Eddie House and Mikki More. Plus Leon Powe and Glen Davis restricted. They're going to lose Davis or Powe because they have no money to sign them because the large salaries of the big three. Who will fill in there roles later on, Brian Scalabrine? He is a joke for what they've invested in another Jason Kidd product. May I also point out that they play Glenn Davis as a backup center. He's still is too small to even be a backup center if not a back up power forward. If you even consider the Celtics having one of the deepest benches in the league then you must not watch games... They only rely on that big three... It's the core of the entire team and salary... You can't count play from players who usually score all there points after they have blew a team out. James Posey made that team a championship team. He brough energy, points, and defense while coming off the bench. Now he is in New Orleans and playing a crucial role in there bench... The only reason they lost Posey was because they're so far invested in three players who won't get any younger anytime soon.
 

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Oh now he want's to finish this ish
 

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Oh now he want's to finish this ish
I actually didnt see lonesome had posted... I actually have a life off the board. Ive done homework for the last 4 nights. Plust stdying
 

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When scoring, the judges should assess how well the debater has proven their point, using valid and relevant discussion, statistical evidence where appropriate, rebuttal where applicable, and overall coherency.
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Great indepth on individual attributes by LonesomeFX. AiR_YeEzY lacked individual statistical rebuttal on this, which had me lean more to LFX. Then he posted overall bench stats - nice touch.
Some of the ramblings were more personal statements then debate oriented. I ignored the final post as it was after the other judges had posted. It's sad that my scores result in the final say-so.
What made me lean was the fact that AY conceded that Bill Walker was good on the bench, a player LFX never even mentioned. Never concede that your opponent is better in any way.

>AiR_YeEzY - 8

LonesomeFX - 8.5
 

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Winner of this match by split decision is .AiR_YeEzY​
 
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