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The Knicks don't have LBJ taking away from Knicks role player stats... And Ben Wallace does much more then what the stat sheet does, he's playing like an all team defender again.
of course. takeing lebron off the cavs might mean there stats go up, but lebron does soooo much for them and you know that. no lebron means less double teams and less open shots

add him to this knicks team and there stats might go up a little because of wht i just mentioned.

i know the wallace effect. i felt kind of bad posting his stats because i know what he does, but still.
 

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of course. takeing lebron off the cavs might mean there stats go up, but lebron does soooo much for them and you know that. no lebron means less double teams and less open shots

add him to this knicks team and there stats might go up a little because of wht i just mentioned.

i know the wallace effect. i felt kind of bad posting his stats because i know what he does, but still.
Well i would say taking off LBJ would increase other players stats because the scoring has to come else where other then LeBron. And yes I know what he does to the team, he is the best passer, the best scorer, the best all around rebounder and the 2nd best defender. Without him I realize we are most likely a lotto team.
 

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Well i would say taking off LBJ would increase other players stats because the scoring has to come else where other then LeBron. And yes I know what he does to the team, he is the best passer, the best scorer, the best all around rebounder and the 2nd best defender. Without him I realize we are most likely a lotto team.
not most likely, definitely

all i'm saying is the knicks and cavs minus lebron are pretty even.
even if one has better stats, they wouldnt be leaps and bounds ahead of the other. they're pretty even.
 

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Don't know if anyone else noticed that in LeBron's press-conference that he said teams have to be defense first in the playoffs :l Its what the Cavs put into players brains and the exact opposite of Mike D'Antonio's system. Not much to make of it but whatever.
 

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Mavs won 5th in a row. From 2-7 to 7-7, including last 3 without JH5.

Most notable things.

Brandon Rush and Antoine Wright both scored career highs
 

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Brandon Rush and Antoine Wright both scored career highs

Good to see B-rush put up 18. I heard he had a poster dunk on dampier as well.
 

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Brandon Rush and Antoine Wright both scored career highs

Good to see B-rush put up 18. I heard he had a poster dunk on dampier as well.
Rush is going to be a good player, he's got a nice all around offensive game and is no slouch defensively.
 

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Rush is going to be a good player, he's got a nice all around offensive game and is no slouch defensively.
Yeah i really wanted him to go to cleveland in the draft. I think he's gonna be the best out of the KU kids un the 08 draft. I'm proably bias because he's my favorite KU player.
 

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Yeah, it was a pretty nice one on Damp. But then again it's Damp lol.

Wright looked good to, he was AMAZING tonight as slashing and converting. 24 points, 5 rebounds.
 

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Yeah i really wanted him to go to cleveland in the draft. I think he's gonna be the best out of the KU kids un the 08 draft. I'm proably bias because he's my favorite KU player.
LeBron lobbied for the Cavaliers to draft him but he didn't fall to us anyway.
 

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Kobe scored 12 points and was awful tonight shooting, but the Lakers still won by 27

the game was tied at 66 too then the Lakers outscored the Nets like 41-15 or something crazy like that
 

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Kobe scored 12 points and was awful tonight shooting, but the Lakers still won by 27

the game was tied at 66 too then the Lakers outscored the Nets like 41-15 or something crazy like that
Yeah boiiii, that's how deep this team is.

But dude, Trevor Ariza. The more I watch him improve, the more I think he's going to be a big time stud. He's ony 23, it's not too late for him to develop into a T-Mac type of player. He's fearless, one of the best finishers in the game, has the vision, the passing ability, works hard on defense, and definitely has the work ethic. If he continues to work on his jump shot, there's no reason to think he won't be a big time player. The future is most definitely set.
 

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Everyone knew the Lakers were good, but I dont think anyone saw this coming.

Unlike in the past they dont need Kobe to score 30+ in order to win. Their bench is the biggest factor, now Kobe can actually rest during the game.

I hate to say it, but if they keep it up at this pace, and everyone stays healthy 70 wins or more is possible, I doubted it before because I thought the Hornets and Spurs were going to be alot better then theyve been and kind of put a hold on that, but I dont see them as "elite" anymore... granted San An hasnt been healthy, once TP gets back I still dont think they'll be the team theyve been.
 

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very nice 5 game winning streak by the mavs have them back to 7-7 and in playoff contention. I hope we can work it out and make the playoffs.
 

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NEW YORK - NOVEMBER 25: LeBron James #23 of the Cleveland Cavaliers wearing for the first time his special edition "Big Apple" Nike sneakers during game against the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden November 25, 2008 in New York City.
lmao, I guess he loves NY too much.
 

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Yeah boiiii, that's how deep this team is.

But dude, Trevor Ariza. The more I watch him improve, the more I think he's going to be a big time stud. He's ony 23, it's not too late for him to develop into a T-Mac type of player. He's fearless, one of the best finishers in the game, has the vision, the passing ability, works hard on defense, and definitely has the work ethic. If he continues to work on his jump shot, there's no reason to think he won't be a big time player. The future is most definitely set.
i hope we re-sign him.
I love Trevor too man. He is really incredible.

i heard someone say that he is as close to Pippen as they have seen. I think it was Big Game...
 

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you guys know the +/- stats?
like what teams produce te most with a certain 5 on the floor?

the lakers have 2 different teams in the top 10 out of all the NBA teams
 
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