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Nope, because Kobe's ability to be clutch and close out games puts him over LeBron.
I'm questioning your basketball iq now to. I hate how kobe fans act like he is in a different league from everybody else because he's not. If i remember right didnt lebron lead the league in 4th quarter points yet he cant close out games. Hmm
 

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Kobe and Lebron are equall ecept kobe can take his team to the finals and knows how to win and has more expierence
Kobe has guys like Odom, Gasol, & Fisher to help him out. Lebron doesnt.
 

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I'm questioning your basketball iq now to. I hate how kobe fans act like he is in a different league from everybody else because he's not. If i remember right didnt lebron lead the league in 4th quarter points yet he cant close out games. Hmm
That's exactly it though. Kobe doesn't simply go out and score in the 4th quarter, he executes. Whether he has to pass, shoot, or get a foul called on him, he usually gets it done. And no, I don't think Kobe's in his own league because he's not way better than LeBron. Closing isn't just scoring, but doing what is needed to win. You can't try and tell me LeBron is more clutch than Kobe....

edit: I don't understand why people keep giving the Lakers' supporting cast so much credit. If Odom, Vujacic, Farmar, and the rest of the bench were so good, they wouldn't be down 2-3 in the finals right now. Although, he does have Bynum, but he's simply not in the line up right now and thats what really made the Lakers' supporting cast over the top in the first place
 

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That's exactly it though. Kobe doesn't simply go out and score in the 4th quarter, he executes. Whether he has to pass, shoot, or get a foul called on him, he usually gets it done. And no, I don't think Kobe's in his own league because he's not way better than LeBron. Closing isn't just scoring, but doing what is needed to win. You can't try and tell me LeBron is more clutch than Kobe....
What has kobe done clutch in the finals this year? What makes him so great. He played subpar yesterday besides the first quarter and got away with a huge reach in foul. And even though i may seem like it i'm not a kobe hater he's actually one of my favorites. But he hasnt done <Censored> in the finals besides one game.
 

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What has kobe done clutch in the finals this year? What makes him so great. He played subpar yesterday besides the first quarter and got away with a huge reach in foul. And even though i may seem like it i'm not a kobe hater he's actually one of my favorites. But he hasnt done <Censored> in the finals besides one game.
I completely understand that but are you putting LeBron over Kobe because of one bad series? How about you look at what LeBron did in the Finals last year. Not much better...
 

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No matter how many blatant fouls you commit while they dont get called. :rolleyes:
Lol, all i can say is 'karma'. Whether that was a foul or not, the Lakers have been robbed of a lot of calls throughout the series too, so that shouldn't mean anything.
 

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I completely understand that but are you putting LeBron over Kobe because of one bad series? How about you look at what LeBron did in the Finals last year. Not much better...
No i look at each. Lebron is a better passer and all around player but he isnt a better scorer than kobe imo. But look at what lebron is doing now imagine what he does once he hits his prime. kobe is in is prime right now and it's debateable if he is even the best player in the league. And i would rather have pau and lamar odom than larry hughes and big z.
 

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Lol, all i can say is 'karma'. Whether that was a foul or not, the Lakers have been robbed of a lot of calls throughout the series too, so that shouldn't mean anything.

I'm more upset at how Kobe thought he was a badass afterwards when he YET AGAIN could barely captialize on a bad game by KG, his Lakers should have won that game by atleast 10.
 

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Well I don't agree that there is a discussion who the best player is in the NBA right now. I pretty much believe that's Kobe, no doubt. But I never said that LeBron didn't have more potential, I was only talking about each player's play right now. LeBron has the potential to be the best in the league, but right now he simply isn't. And I agree that Kobe's supporting cast is better than LeBron's but earlier I was just saying that they're getting a little too much credit because people are saying that they should be enough to beat the Celtics. I don't think Pau and Lamar and match up the Celtics right now. Pau is too soft and lamar doesn't always know what his role is. And honestly, I don't think LeBron is any 'better' at passing. He is definetly better at drawing a foul and being aggressive because of his obvious size advantage.
 

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Honestly take away that your a laker fan for a second. How is kobe any better than a player like lebron or chris paul? How is he more effective than any of them
 

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I'm more upset at how Kobe thought he was a badass afterwards when he YET AGAIN could barely captialize on a bad game by KG, his Lakers should have won that game by atleast 10.
How did Kobe think he was badass? And of course, Lakers have had huge leads just to see them disappear. Our offense and defense simply can't be consistent. That also goes along with the inexperience of the Lakers in close games.
 

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people are saying that they should be enough to beat the Celtics. I don't think Pau and Lamar and match up the Celtics right now.
They dont match up at all. Boston has a way better roster than the Lakers but the Lakers keep getting huge runs and then either losing the game or barely winning. Especially when one of the big three has an off game, they should be able to capitulize on that. Kobe isnt the best. I'm conviced that Paul Pierce is better than him, as I said on the last page and I'm not joking.

How did Kobe think he was badass?
Lol you serious? Did you see that dunk and arrogant smile after the game?
 

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Honestly take away that your a laker fan for a second. How is kobe any better than a player like lebron or chris paul? How is he more effective than any of them
I'm really not picking Kobe because I'm a Lakers fan. And honestly, all three are amazing players. They all dominate their games in different ways though, so you can't say 'well chris paul can score and is better in passing than both of them so he should be the best' or anything like that. If you wanna talk about overall effectiveness, you have got to go with kobe. He simply can do whatever is asked of him. Obviously not every time because no one in the league right now can, but he gets it done more than anyone else does. LeBron still has to work on some aspects of his game. Chris Paul I think comes closer to Kobe in that aspect because his game is becoming very polished. Although, when they got into the playoffs, a lot of his passes were off, but that's just because he's still young. Meh..
 

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They dont match up at all. Boston has a way better roster than the Lakers but the Lakers keep getting huge runs and then either losing the game or barely winning. Especially when one of the big three has an off game, they should be able to capitulize on that. Kobe isnt the best. I'm conviced that Paul Pierce is better than him, as I said on the last page and I'm not joking.



Lol you serious? Did you see that dunk and arrogant smile after the game?
Ok ok, if Paul Pierce is better than Kobe Bryant AND he has a better overall team, then why isn't this series over. It's obvious Kobe is carrying the them because right now, I'd have to agree that (without Bynum) the Celtics are the better overall team.
 

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Ok ok, if Paul Pierce is better than Kobe Bryant AND he has a better overall team, then why isn't this series over. It's obvious Kobe is carrying the them because right now, I'd have to agree that (without Bynum) the Celtics are the better overall team.
Rondo isnt playing well, Perkins is injured, KG is getting into foul trouble, and more importantly the Doc refuses to play Big Baby! But seriously, we're letting you guys get too big a lead to start the games, thats why.
 

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the lakers do have a better overall team. if they wouldnt of blown the lead in game 4 they would be leading the series 3-2
 
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