Who is a better team???

[Dice-J]

since everyone is talking about these two teams why not make a poll of which one is better

1972 Dolphins (13-0)



Pos. Name No.
QB Griese, Bob 12
QB Morrall, Earl 15
QB Del Gaizo, Jim 11
RB Csonka, Larry 39
RB Morris, Mercury 22
RB Kiick, Jim 21
RB Leigh, Charles 23
RB Jenkins, Ed 28
RB Ginn, Hubert 32
WR Warfield, Paul 42
WR Twilley, Howard 81
WR Briscoe, Marlin 86
WR Stowe, Otto 82
WR Noonan, Karl 89
TE Mandich, Jim 88
TE Fleming, Marv 80
C Langer, Jim 62
G Little, Larry 66
G Kuechenberg, Bob 67
T Evans, Norm 73
T Moore, Wayne 79
T Crusan, Doug 77
C-T Kindig, Howard 54
G-T Jenkins, Al 60
DE Den Herder, Vern 83
DE Stanfill, Bill 84
DE Riley, Jim 70
DT Heinz, Bob 72
DT Fernandez, Manny 75
DT Dunaway, Jim 78
DT Moore, Maulty 65
DT Kadish, Mike 68
LB Buonticonti, Nick 85
LB Matheson, Bob 53
LB Ball, Larry 51
LB Swift, Doug 59
LB Powell, Jesse 56
LB Kolen, Mike 57
CB Foley, Tim 25
CB Mumphord, Lloyd 26
CB Johnson, Curtis 45
CB Stuckey, Henry 48
S Scott, Jake 13
S Anderson, <Censored> 40
S Howell, Mike 43
S Babb, Charles 49
1 Yepremian, Garo K
20 Seiple, Larry P-TE
7 Lothridge, Billy P


2007 Patriots (9-0)



NO. NAME POS AGE HT WT EXP COLLEGE
12 Tom Brady QB 30 6-4 225 8 Michigan
16 Matt Cassel QB 25 6-4 230 3 USC
7 Matt Gutierrez QB 23 6-4 230 R Idaho State
33 Kevin Faulk RB 31 5-8 202 9 LSU
39 Laurence Maroney RB 22 5-11 220 2 Minnesota
38 Kyle Eckel FB 25 5-11 245 1 Navy
44 Heath Evans FB 28 6-0 250 7 Auburn
34 Sammy Morris FB 30 6-0 220 8 Texas Tech
80 Troy Brown WR 36 5-10 196 14 Marshall
10 Jabar Gaffney WR 26 6-1 200 6 Florida
17 Chad Jackson WR 22 6-1 215 2 Florida
81 Randy Moss WR 30 6-4 210 10 Marshall
18 Donte' Stallworth WR 26 6-0 200 6 Tennessee
15 Kelley Washington WR 28 6-3 215 5 Tennessee
83 Wes Welker WR 26 5-9 185 4 Texas Tech
88 Kyle Brady TE 35 6-6 280 13 Penn State
86 David Thomas TE 24 6-3 248 2 Texas
84 Benjamin Watson TE 26 6-3 255 4 Georgia
67 Dan Koppen C 28 6-2 296 5 Boston College
66 Lonie Paxton C 29 6-2 260 8 Sacramento State
71 Russ Hochstein G 30 6-4 305 7 Nebraska
70 Logan Mankins G 25 6-4 310 3 Fresno State
61 Stephen Neal G 31 6-4 305 6 Cal State Bakersfield
68 Ryan O'Callaghan G 24 6-7 330 2 California
74 Billy Yates G 27 6-2 305 4 Texas A&M
65 Wesley Britt OT 25 6-8 320 2 Alabama
77 Nick Kaczur OT 28 6-4 315 3 Toledo
72 Matt Light OT 29 6-4 305 7 Purdue
95 Kareem Brown DT 23 6-4 295 R Miami (FL)
90 LeKevin Smith DT 25 6-1 308 2 Nebraska
75 Vince Wilfork DT 26 6-2 325 4 Miami (FL)
97 Jarvis Green DL 28 6-3 285 6 LSU
93 Richard Seymour DL 28 6-6 310 7 Georgia
94 Ty Warren DL 26 6-5 300 5 Texas A&M
99 Mike Wright DL 25 6-4 295 3 Cincinnati
52 Eric Alexander LB 25 6-2 240 3 LSU
54 Tedy Bruschi LB 34 6-1 247 12 Arizona
59 Rosevelt Colvin LB 30 6-3 250 9 Purdue
53 Larry Izzo LB 33 5-10 228 12 Rice
49 Oscar Lua LB 23 6-0 238 R USC
55 Junior Seau LB 38 6-3 250 18 USC
96 Adalius Thomas LB 30 6-2 270 8 Southern Miss
50 Mike Vrabel LB 32 6-4 261 11 Ohio State
58 Pierre Woods LB 25 6-5 250 2 Michigan
23 Willie Andrews CB 24 5-10 190 2 Baylor
21 Randall Gay CB 25 5-11 190 4 LSU
27 Ellis Hobbs CB 24 5-9 195 3 Iowa State
29 Eddie Jackson CB 26 6-0 200 4 Arkansas
22 Asante Samuel CB 26 5-10 185 5 UCF
30 Chad Scott CB 33 6-1 205 11 Maryland
35 Mike Richardson DB 23 5-11 190 R Notre Dame
26 Eugene Wilson DB 27 5-10 195 5 Illinois
32 Rashad Baker S 25 5-10 198 4 Tennessee
37 Rodney Harrison S 34 6-1 220 14 Western Illinois
31 Brandon Meriweather S 23 5-11 200 R Miami (FL)
24 Mel Mitchell S 28 6-1 225 6 Western Kentucky
36 James Sanders S 23 5-10 210 3 Fresno State
3 Stephen Gostkowski PK 23 6-1 210 2 Memphis
6 Chris Hanson P 31 6-2 202 7 Marshall​

 

[playmaker7]

Of course the Phins cuz they proved themselves...

 

[monster]

When teh Pats win the all 16 games then they can say they are better.

 

[.GR]

Which they wont.

They play the Steelers in 2 weeks. Best Defense in the league, and one of the most explosive O's behing them and the Colts.

 

[bulls12]

I'm surprised that the Dolphins got as many votes considering the amount of people around here who aren't really historical sports nuts.

 

[Sabbath]

Two 1,000 yard rushers and the no-name defense is the winning formula in football.

 

[bulls12]

geez, what god-awful looking font that is...

S Anderson, <Censored> 40

that's funny, idk why, just is.

 

[Dice-J]

geez, what god-awful looking font that is...
that's funny, idk why, just is.

i couldn't think of a Dolphin color so i used that

 

[bulls12]

yeah, but what was the guy's real name, D!ck?

 

[dez]

Im not sure how much history you guys know, but seriously is this even a question?

First off, players nowadays are more athletic, bigger, and stronger. (Edge: Patriots)

But look at the Dolphins undefeated season, many people say it was all luck, obviously I wasnt around to give my 1st person account but from what I watched the Dolphins of '72 would be like the Eagles of today, a nice team but really stands no chance, The Patriots are probably the best offensive team of all-time, just because they went 13-0 then doesnt mean they are good nowadays.

All in all, my vote goes to the Pats.

 

[bulls12]

yeah dez, you make a good point, the game has certainly changed since 35 years ago.

 

[Sabbath]

Im not sure how much history you guys know, but seriously is this even a question?

First off, players nowadays are more athletic, bigger, and stronger. (Edge: Patriots)

But look at the Dolphins undefeated season, many people say it was all luck, obviously I wasnt around to give my 1st person account but from what I watched the Dolphins of '72 would be like the Eagles of today, a nice team but really stands no chance, The Patriots are probably the best offensive team of all-time, just because they went 13-0 then doesnt mean they are good nowadays.

All in all, my vote goes to the Pats.

Yea, but the 72 dolphins had a great defense and one of the best rushing teams of all-time.

and don't give me this players nowadays are faster and more athletic. Players back then were tougher, meaner, and played with more heart.

 

[ZigZag]

The 72 Dolphins were better compared to the rest of the league then than the Patriots are compared to the rest of the league now.

 

[A.E]

The game was much more 'rugged' & a lot less 'primadonna' in 1972 but I have to give the upper hand to the Patriots. It's not really a fair argument for either side though. On one hand, the Dolphins had the shorter season, less teams, and the same Players for a lot longer than teams do today. As far as today's Patriots, their is more depth among most teams, and the game is much more complicated with Offensive & Defensive schemes.

I am sick of hearing that @sshole Mercury Morris & the "Champange on Ice" crap every year so I wouldn't vote Dolphins even if I thought they could legitimatley beat the Pats anyways. How about this...I honestly think the Colts of 2006 were better than the 1972 Dolphins.

 

[A.E]

The 72 Dolphins were better compared to the rest of the league then than the Patriots are compared to the rest of the league now.

Huh? I'm trying to make sense out of that comment.

 

[dez]

and don't give me this players nowadays are faster and more athletic. Players back then were tougher, meaner, and played with more heart.

what do you mean dont "give me this" stuff? ITS THE TRUTH, is it not? as for being mean, I doubt that the guys now are less mean. And as for the heart comment, most players play with the same amount of heart, its just the jackasses like TO, who make you think otherwise.

 

[Sabbath]

what do you mean dont "give me this" stuff? ITS THE TRUTH, is it not? as for being mean, I doubt that the guys now are less mean. And as for the heart comment, most players play with the same amount of heart, its just the jackasses like TO, who make you think otherwise.

So what, there are plenty of players from 1972 that would be faster then players starting in the NFL today (by position, of course.)

Nowadays it's all about money. That's what it comes down. Back then, yea money was nice, but you played because that was your life. Nowadays you have players going to jail, shooting at strip clubs, dog fighting, yadda yadda. Yes I'll admit, there are plenty of players that play with heart but not with the same meanness and toughness the players did back then. They would punch each other, Joe Greene's headslaps would knock teeth loose. There was no horse collar rules or rules protecting those fragile quarterbacks. It was football at its finest.

Hell nowadays, your not even allowed to blast someone full speed because you'll get fined and penalized. I remember watching this play where this receiver stretched up for the ball and Butkus just absolutely crushed him. Not even Jerry Rice could've held onto that pass.