Dumars messing with fans?

[A.E]

Is Joe Dumars messing with Pistons fans?
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Piston fans are having a bad time of it lately. The team is 8-19, they’ve lost eight of their last ten. There’s rampant discussion that Kuester has lost the team (if he ever had them), and what’s worse, they continue to sit on the sidelines with two trade assets in Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince. What’s worse? They’re GM is kind of, sort of screwing with them.

Pistons blog Piston Powered listened in on a radio interview with Dumars in Detroit, where Dumars gave the impression that he was close to a trade, saying he “hoped” he was close to a deal. In order to hope for being close, you’ve got to at least have options, right? Deductive logic is going to lead you in that direction.

Unfortunately for Joe, a few days later he gave another radio interview. After it was over, the recorder kept rolling, and Dumars kept talking about the trade options. That audio wound up online, where it was later removed, but Piston Powered got a hold of a transcription. Thing is, Joe got a little too honest when he thought he was off-air:

Langlois: Let me ask you some background stuff here. Um, I saw with Matt Dery, you said you were, you had some conversations, is there any players I should be…

Dumars: I talked to Matt after. I said, “Matt, you’ve got everybody asking me like, ‘You’ve got something imminent?’ ” What he asked me, you know, I’m, like, “Yeah, I’m talking, Matt, but you know, but am I close? I don’t know. Teams say, ‘Hey, you know,we kind of like that, you know.’ ”

Langlois: So there’s nothing?

Dumars: No, there’s nothing.

Whoops. Now, Dumars never said he was close, he just insinuated it. Piston Powered is still trying to figure out exactly what he meant. But with a franchise hanging on by a thread in the most economically devastated metropolitan area in the country. Maybe you don’t want to mess with them too much. Then again, giving the impression publicly that he’s talking about trades might help with spurring someone to make a deal. If, you know, GMs listened to local Detroit radio in their copious amounts of free time.

Honestly, this comes down to whether it’s important to be honest with the fans or not, and if fans are capable of front office officials being honest with them. And that’s a whole hornets nest in and of itself.

-PBT

 

[DJT]

I knew there wasn't anything all along. I don't think many teams will give up much for Pistons players.

 

[Pugz]

can this guy. thank god ive always had the magic/lakers to fall back on. this team blows. i find myself watching every other game i can instead of this shatty team

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

No need to be surprised on "The moves" that Joe D makes.

 

[RipCity32]

More of a reason to get this fucking guy out. I fucking hate him and Davidson with a gosh damn passion.

 

[.infamous]

lol this is like matt millen all over again.

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

More of a reason to get this <Censored>ing guy out. I <Censored>ing hate him and Davidson with a gosh damn passion.

Until somebody buys the team, he's there for a while.

 

[RipCity32]

I'm livid that he and Davidson are still in charge. I get so fucking agitated just thinking of it.

 

[DJT]

Aren't they close to selling the team or was that just a rumor??

 

[RipCity32]

They were until Davidson's gold digging ass inflated the revenue numbers.

 

[sheed]

Its kind of sad how I now enjoy watching other teams play rather than watching my own.

 

[A.E]

You Piston fans are killing me...you got you're Championships and I swear, Dumars looked like "the man" a few years ago. I don't know what the hell he is doing these days...but I was scratching my head the day he traded for Iverson & then again, when he used up the free cap space to sign Gordon and Cancer Patient.

Kuester is a great X's and O's guy but he's more like a great offensive coordinator...not a good head coach at all.

 

[Whisper]

Well when you think about it, Dumars is just a guy that got lucky during the Pistons earlier decade dominance of the Eastern Conference.

Billups was solid, but nothing special before his stint with the Pistons where he suddenly broke out. Who knew that was going to happen?

Ben Wallace was then supposed to just be a throw-in after trading away Grant Hill. Who knew he would be the defensive freak he is?

and it's not like Tayshaun Prince was anything special when he first came into the league either. The only sure-fire moves were getting Rasheed and Rip.

Other than that, what else has he really done?

 

[Big Bid'Ness]

Well when you think about it, Dumars is just a guy that got lucky during the Pistons earlier decade dominance of the Eastern Conference.

Billups was solid, but nothing special before his stint with the Pistons where he suddenly broke out. Who knew that was going to happen?

Ben Wallace was then supposed to just be a throw-in after trading away Grant Hill. Who knew he would be the defensive freak he is?

and it's not like Tayshaun Prince was anything special when he first came into the league either. The only sure-fire moves were getting Rasheed and Rip.

Other than that, what else has he really done?

Signing McDyess? lol

 

[Pugz]

Well when you think about it, Dumars is just a guy that got lucky during the Pistons earlier decade dominance of the Eastern Conference.

Billups was solid, but nothing special before his stint with the Pistons where he suddenly broke out. Who knew that was going to happen?

Ben Wallace was then supposed to just be a throw-in after trading away Grant Hill. Who knew he would be the defensive freak he is?

and it's not like Tayshaun Prince was anything special when he first came into the league either. The only sure-fire moves were getting Rasheed and Rip.

Other than that, what else has he really done?

dyess was his best move, but again --- lucked out.

well ben wallace was the best luck out, maybe of the past 10 years? thats a stretch. dumars did do nothing but luck out.



fuck him

 

[RipCity32]

Agree with everything Lyriks said.

Plus the dude has been straight ASS in the draft. Don't even get me started with that shit.

 

[A.E]

Give Dumars some credit here. It's like every good personnel move he's ever made is being played out as straight up luck. I don't think that's the case. But again, I don't know what the hell he's doing these days either.

 

[RipCity32]

He really did nothing good besides getting Rip and Sheed. I do think he got Ben and Chauncey with no intentions that they would be future All-Stars. Getting Larry Brown was also the best thing he ever did, but eventually fucked that up anyways lol.

His bads outweigh his goods by far.

 

[Lake Louise]

I'm not surprised about this. I didn't expect there to be anything. I'm not going to act like I know what he's doing, or like I know what i'm talking about. I just knew this would be a tough year and so far that's been proven.