2016 NBA Offseason Discussion Thread

[jonathanlambert33]

Keep all discussion not related to the 2016 Finals in this thread.

 

[Pugz]

pin

 

[Mexi]

Whos givng batum 20 mil a year

Call me crazy, dont sleep on the lakers. I know i keep saying demar is going there
But if he does say no, batum seems like a GS Luke guy
And the lakers do need to spend this summer

Heck, they might not even chase demar what do i know

 

[Pugz]

its hard to predict free agency this year

 

[bosoxlover12]

I find it cute the Celtics fans on reddit that think we'll re-sign Turner


We aren't paying over $10M for a backup, and I bet he'll get $12+ from the Knicks

 

[Mexi]

I find it cute that you called celtic fans cute

 

[bosoxlover12]

There's a new star hitting free agency now
 
 
HERE COMES AUSTIN RIVERS

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I have to really laugh at this idea that how high a players head is from his feet is actually relevant. I've heard some Pelican fans say a Dunn/Jrue backcourt wouldn't work because they are both 6'4 and don't have the size to play SG. That's asinine to me. No knowledgable or well informed fan would say Bismack Biyombo is undersized, even at 6'9". That's because things like wingspan and reach are actually relevant, unlike height. You look at Biyombos measurables and he has the length of a man standing over 7 feet tall. Same goes for Dunn and Jrue. Those guys have the length of guys standing 6'5-6'6, it's why they are viewed as having elite size at the PG position.

 

[bosoxlover12]

I think Dunn and Jrue would work, but it's not the greatest fit for the team. Jrue is best with the ball in his hands, even if he's one of the better off-ball PGs in the league. And I really don't like the fit of Dunn and Tyreke as they definitely both need the ball.
 
I would think of Hield as the best fit for the Pels, with Jamal Murray as an option B. Dunn is definitely the third best prospect in this draft, but I don't see a great spot for him outside Minnesota and Sacto

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I just don't like that back court offensively at all Nola. I have no problems from a defensive perspective though

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I think Dunn and Jrue would work, but it's not the greatest fit for the team. Jrue is best with the ball in his hands, even if he's one of the better off-ball PGs in the league. And I really don't like the fit of Dunn and Tyreke as they definitely both need the ball.
 
I would think of Hield as the best fit for the Pels, with Jamal Murray as an option B. Dunn is definitely the third best prospect in this draft, but I don't see a great spot for him outside Minnesota and Sacto

  

I just don't like that back court offensively at all Nola. I have no problems from a defensive perspective though

I think it's a fantastic fit for the team, once Dunn has NBA experience under his belt. Gentry doesn't trust Jrue to be his dominant ball handler like a CP3 or Nash, which he shouldn't. Like I said the other day, Jrue is a combo guard who works best splitting time between working on and off ball.

I look at all the great teams, they have two (or more) facilitators. Curry and Klay, Kyrie and LeBron, for example. Gentry wants to run his offense through two facilitators and Dunn and Jrue would give you that.

I look at Dunn as a bigger Eric Bledsoe, and if you could get a bigger Bledsoe at 6 that guy would be one of the best 6th picks at all time. Don't you think Bledsoe/Jrue would be dynamite? I do.

I guess shuffling back to Jrue off the ball, the best he's always played in his time in NOLA has been when he has shared the court with another guy who can facilitate. You look at anytime he has shared the court with a guy like that, the team has done really well, and he thrives in that roll. He was absolutely fantastic in that roll this year. I think Dunn is better on ball, Jrue better off, I have no worries there.

Also take it for what it's worth, but I've heard all offseason from people "in the know" that if Tyreke is back next season it would be an absolute shock.

Lastly, a little tidbit, I guess it's a big reason Byron Scott was let go, the Lakers proposed DeAngelo Russell for Jrue Holiday, and would have accepted that deal. Makes me wonder who else they offered.

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I don't see Dunn being as good offensively as Eric Bledsoe. Think there's legitimate concern about that jumper

To me he's more of a Tyreke Evans with a slightly better jumper, less craftiness around the rim and more defensive potential

 

[bosoxlover12]

^ and better handles with more speed

He's a poor man's John Wall combined with Reke

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I don't see Dunn being as good offensively as Eric Bledsoe. Think there's legitimate concern about that jumper

To me he's more of a Tyreke Evans with a slightly better jumper, less craftiness around the rim and more defensive potential

To me his biggest question mark is can he stay healthy. If he can get that jumper working I think he'd be better than Bledsoe. I love his athleticism and handles.

I think he's comparable to Tyreke in that when he gets into the paint he will do some crazy thing to try and get the ball to go in instead of just taking the contact and going to the line. But I think he plays with more focus and passion than Tyreke does, and he's a better ball mover. Reke can put up nice assist numbers but he's not a guy that moves the ball. He tends to pound it while the shot clock is disappearing.

 

[buzzy]

Better than Bledsoe is pretty much a superstar

 

[jonathanlambert33]

I don't think so

 

[CameronCrazy06]

I don't think so

Maybe not superstar but the guy averaged 20, 6 and 4 with good defense on the other end. I'm not sure I project Dunn as a guy who will score 20 a game

 

[buzzy]

Word. Granted it's only based on 31 games but Bledsoe was All-Star bound.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Maybe not superstar but the guy averaged 20, 6 and 4 with good defense on the other end. I'm not sure I project Dunn as a guy who will score 20 a game

Look at the circumstances though. You give Dunn 6 years of development in the NBA, then give him complete control (high usage rate) of a really bad team that plays at a blistering pace, what does he do? It's easy to put up good numbers on a bad team, even more when that bad team puts the ball in your hands and you play at one of the fastest paces in the league. It's impossible to predict what could happen 6 years down the line but I think if Dunn followed the trajectory people expect him to he could meet and possibly exceed those raw numbers.

 

[jonathanlambert33]

Word. Granted it's only based on 31 games but Bledsoe was All-Star bound.

There's not even a 1% chance Bledsoe would have made that All-Star team.