Austin Collie hit.

Was this hit leagal, or not?

  • Yes, he had two feet down.

    Votes: 10 50.0%
  • No, it was clearly a helmet to helmet hit.

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • I am a homer. Hit was bad but legal.

    Votes: 6 30.0%

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NFL.com said:
PHILADELPHIA -- Indianapolis Colts wide receiver Austin Collie suffered a concussion on a second-quarter hit to his head Sunday by Philadelphia Eagles safety Kurt Coleman.

Collie was "awake and alert in the (locker) room," coach Jim Caldwell said after the Eagles' 26-24 victory. "I think he'll recover quickly. He'll do OK."

"I won't go into all the details about it, but he took a pretty good hit," Caldwell said. "He was out, unconscious for a period of time."

It was a scary scene that had the Linc silent while Collie lay on the ground for several minutes Sunday. Trainers worked on him, then Collie was placed on a stretcher as players from both sidelines stood and watched.

"Coach Caldwell told us early it was a concussion and you don't like to hear that," Peyton Manning said. "It's better than what everybody fears at that point."

The second-year receiver dropped a pass over the middle after he was hit by safeties Quintin Mikell and Coleman. Although Mikell was penalized for hitting a defenseless receiver, replays showed Coleman made contact with Collie's helmet.

Since the NFL cracked down on hits to the head and neck area on Oct. 19 after a spate of them the previous weekend, there were few such fouls. The league has threatened suspensions for illegal hits to defenseless players, saying they have no place in the game.

Collie was turning with the ball when he was hit and dropped it, making him a defenseless player. He fell to the ground and never appeared to move as he was worked on as Colts and Eagles players took of their helmets and looked on, several appearing to pray.

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"I think the official made the proper call," Caldwell said.

The Colts have been plagued by injuries to their offense and already were without tight end Dallas Clark, his backup, Brody Eldridge, and second-string wideout Anthony Gonzalez, who was placed on injured reserve Saturday. Early in the third period, rookie Blair White was shaken up, too.

Collie had one catch for minus-1 yard Sunday. He entered the game with 44 receptions for 502 yards and six touchdowns.

In their last home game, Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson sustained a concussion on Oct. 17 on an illegal hit by Falcons cornerback Dunta Robinson, who also was concussed. Jackson returned to the lineup Sunday.

He was concerned about Collie, and at the same time wondered about the penalty -- Jackson thought the hits on Collie were clean.

"I just hope they don't take this ruling and try to change football," he said.

Robinson was fined $50,000 for the hit. For flagrant fouls that same day, Pittsburgh linebacker James Harrison ($75,000) and New England safety Brandon Meriweather ($50,000) also drew hefty fines. The league announced it would then dole out suspensions along with fines for illegal hits.
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Doesn't need a thread, there was already a 7 page discussion on it in the Regular Season Thread.
 

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What sucks is I can't seeing the NFL do much. They rather fine players for tweets or the colour of mouth guard they wear. I know I have mentioned this numerous times, but its the truth.
 

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They already fined the guy $50 000.
 

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The hits were clean. the hit to the head was unintentional and happened while Collie was turned around and falling down. If he hadnt been falling down the tackler would have hit him right in the back/side, and at most would have been out for a few plays due to having the wind knocked out of him.

Happens so fast, theres nothing the defender can do to avoid hitting him like that without risking his own health. Like I said, happens in the blink of an eye, and its horrible that he was out like that on the ground for that long. Thank god it doesn't appear to be much more serious.

I argued heavily about this in the discussion thread.... don't feel like repeating myself much more. Its a bad situation, but nothing intentional about it.
 

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i went with option three..
 

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There's nothing illegal about that hit Collie and I really think it was his head bouncing off the ground after the fall, the really knocked him out. Both defenders lead with their shoulders, neither made helmet-to-helmet, and both were already committed to making the hit as soon as Collie made contact with the ball.

Just f*cking put flags on WR's and QB's already.
 

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Never made helmet to helmet? What game were you watching.. It was pretty obvious there was helmet to helmet contact.
 

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Never made helmet to helmet? What game were you watching.. It was pretty obvious there was helmet to helmet contact.
Watched the highlight again & yea, Collie & Coleman knocked helmets but only after Coleman made contact with his shoulder pad first. Still not seeing where this was anything more than a really, really hard hit.....and oh, football at the same time.
 

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Shoulder hit him first, then helmets made contact. AE is right.

But what nobody seems to understand is it was UNINTENTIONAL helmet to helmet.

Only the clearly intentional hits should be fined and suspended. This was not that case. It's football, and I'm sure if you were to look closely at slow-motion replays of 90% of the hits in the NFL, at some point after a defenders shoulder has made contact, the helmet knocks into the receiver/running back's helmet. It happens. We only <Censored> about it because they are rough hits that result in injury and they just happen to involve a helmet smacking a helmet after the initial contact.
 

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i just watched the video. and this is horse<Censored>. legal hit. helmet to helmet was accidnetal as he was hit into coleman.

<Censored>in refs throwing flags just because someone gets hurt.

im <Censored>in pissed off im glad the eagles fans booed the <Censored> out of that.
 

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i just watched the video. and this is horse<Censored>. legal hit. helmet to helmet was accidnetal as he was hit into coleman.

<Censored>in refs throwing flags just because someone gets hurt.

im <Censored>in pissed off im glad the eagles fans booed the <Censored> out of that.
What don't they boo?
 

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That call was symbolic of how the Officials called that entire game. I watched from beginning to end and the Officials totally f'd Philadelphia on numerous calls, a majority of them were bullsh*t and just about every call kept the Colts in the game.

I'd be pissed as an NFL game had the Eagles not won that game & yes, I would of blamed the Officials as the reason the Eagles lost.
 

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11 members have voted, theres 27 votes.
Typical SG.

ANYWAYS.
It was legal, move on.. get over it.
 
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